On Aug 11, 2024, at 10:22 AM, Marco Aurélio Deleu <deleu...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11 Aug 2024, at 13:59, Christoph M. Becker <cmbecke...@gmx.de> wrote: >> >> On a general note, the whole administrative part of the RFC process >> feels like we're stuck in the 20th century. For instance, to start the >> vote, you are supposed to: >> >> * update the RFC page to "voting" status >> * add the doodle voting macro >> * add the voting start and end dates to the text of the RFC >> * move the RFC to "voting" on the RFC overview page >> * send an email to the ML announcing the start of voting >> >> Wut? Might as well ask me to send a punched card to someone. >> > > I'd be willing to bet that PHP community members would gladly reimplement the > RFC system, voting, etc. and gift that to the PHP Group. However, whenever > these conversations popup on internals, it is received with resistance to > change and with unsound requirements such as "we can't use any PHP framework > to not seem like we favour one group over the other". What's left behind is > exactly what you described here: outdated process and implementation. The PHP > community spent a large chunk of work in the late 2010s just to phase out > corporate homemade frameworks for the usual maintenance reasons.
Work is underway, slowly because there are not many people involved and we are trying to be careful, to document and clean up some of the underlying project infrastructure. To get involved, I’d invite anyone to join the php-webmas...@lists.php.net list. Essential skills required right now: patience and a willingness to ask questions. Jim
