On Aug 28 2024, at 9:34 am, Larry Garfield <la...@garfieldtech.com> wrote: > > I don't think I'd support a list of "popular" frameworks, but mentioning > Composer, Xdebug, and PHPUnit seems a requirement for a useful modern > tutorial.
Can you explain your position more here, what exactly is your concern (if I captured it in my previous email -- why do you think I'm off base to say we're over-estimating the importance)? > Admittedly, the docs team is very under-resourced right now and even the > reference section has not-small holes, making maintaining even more types of > documentation a potential challenge. That's something the Foundation could > possibly help with. But that's not the topic at hand: The topic at hand is > just "look, we should be able to mention Composer, Xdebug, and PHPUnit, OK?" > On which I very much am in agreement. That's not the topic at hand -- the topic at hand is adopting the principle that: "The web and documentation projects within the PHP Project can use or document the existence of third-party PHP projects as part of their roles in supporting the overall PHP community. Such use does not represent endorsement of those third-party projects by the PHP Project." So that would include frameworks, etc. alongside composer, phpunit, etc.