On Aug 28 2024, at 9:34 am, Larry Garfield <la...@garfieldtech.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think I'd support a list of "popular" frameworks, but mentioning 
> Composer, Xdebug, and PHPUnit seems a requirement for a useful modern 
> tutorial.

Can you explain your position more here, what exactly is your concern (if I 
captured it in my previous email -- why do you think I'm off base to say we're 
over-estimating the importance)?
> Admittedly, the docs team is very under-resourced right now and even the 
> reference section has not-small holes, making maintaining even more types of 
> documentation a potential challenge. That's something the Foundation could 
> possibly help with. But that's not the topic at hand: The topic at hand is 
> just "look, we should be able to mention Composer, Xdebug, and PHPUnit, OK?" 
> On which I very much am in agreement.
That's not the topic at hand -- the topic at hand is adopting the principle 
that:
"The web and documentation projects within the PHP Project can use or document 
the existence of third-party PHP projects as part of their roles in supporting 
the overall PHP community. Such use does not represent endorsement of those 
third-party projects by the PHP Project."
So that would include frameworks, etc. alongside composer, phpunit, etc.

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