> From: Krinkle <krin...@fastmail.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 3:44 AM
>
> On Thu, 24 Oct 2024, at 01:25, fennic log wrote:
> > It was recently brought to my attention that the USA has passed an 
> > Executive Order which prohibits Russian citizens from contributing to 
> > software used in the USA. […]
> >
> > From what I have been reading + excerpts from linux group, PHP has to take 
> > action to comply with this order.
>
> The order prohibits "United States persons" from investing in or selling 
> services to any person located in or business owned within Russia.
>
> It makes no mention of what Russian citizens may do with their time, what 
> (unpaid) contributions United States people can accept, or anything about 
> what software/services are used inside the USA. Even if it did, there would 
> still be a question of juristiction.
> 
> The Linux Foundation is incorporated in Oregon, USA. If they perceive 
> themselves as owning the Linux project, or as providing it to businesses, or 
> as paying for engineers working on Linux, then I can see why they might need 
> to act on this order. It seems like they would need to close ties with (paid) 
> contributors and vendors from Russia, as they would otherwise be paying 
> (investing in) people or businesses in Russia for IT services, which the 
> order prohibits.
>
> Which of these aspects apply to PHP?

Yesterday I came across this video from Brian Lunduke [1][2] that suggests it 
may have to do with legal precedent around GPL licensed software. It sounds 
like a complex legal matter that would probably best be assessed by a lawyer 
familiar with US trade laws. Linus apparently was also advised by legal people 
to take this step. [3] This might also be relevant for the PHP Foundation and 
Perforce. Maybe they can help assess the situation.

--
Kind regards,
Vincent de Lau

[1]: 
https://lunduke.locals.com/post/6263331/sanctions-hit-linux-kernel-russian-programmers-banned
[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Ec5jrpLVk
[3]: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linus-Torvalds-Russian-Devs

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