Hi

Am 2025-02-12 22:31, schrieb Larry Garfield:
I'm still undecided on the RFC overall, but one thing that is problematic is the phrasing of the messages. Currently, the messages in the attribute are fragments of an English sentence, seemingly designed to fit grammatically with a sentence fragment that is coded into the engine somewhere but not readily available to developers.

Yes, the implementation of the error message very closely matches that of #[\Deprecated] (except that there is no `since` bit to insert).

From my phrasing I think you can guess my opinion of that.

That is impossible to document cleanly for English speakers. It will not translate at all for anyone who is writing in a non-English language (which people do). People are going to get it wrong more than they get it right, in any language.

Instead, the wording should be structured to be a complete sentence, and the built-in message updated to make that logical. That gives the developer much more freedom to write a meaningful, contextually-relevant message in the language of their choice.

We're open to adjusting that. Do you have any suggestions? The implementation of #[\Deprecated] works like it does, because PHP itself already doesn't end the error messages with a `.`, as it appends `in file.php on line 42`. This makes it inconvenient to have more than one sentence in an error message, which is why we're struggling with coming up with something better.

Best regards
Tim Düsterhus

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