Hi,

On Fri, May 9, 2025 at 1:09 PM Tim Düsterhus <t...@bastelstu.be> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Am 2025-05-09 12:47, schrieb Jakub Zelenka:
> > I'd like to start discussion for some release process updates defined
> > in
> > the following RFC / linked PR:
> >
> > RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/policy-release-process-update
> > Policy PR: https://github.com/php/policies/pull/19
>
> Thank you. The changes seem to accurately reflect the current practice
> and make sense to me. I however noticed that “Major” and “Minor”
> versions both effectively have the same allowances. Perhaps we could add
> some additional nuance as to what breaking changes are allowed to be
> approved by an RFC in a minor version, since breaking changes in majors
> should also require an RFC.


Yeah it doesn't make much sense to note that RFC bit. I wanted to say that
breaks
are possible as it's already happening but the wording was not the best.


> Some thoughts:
>
> - A minor version MUST NOT break syntax compatibility (i.e. every PHP
> program that compiles must continue to compile).
>

Added this one


> - Breaking changes in minor versions SHOULD be limited to extensions /
> the API of functions within an extension.
>

I'm not sure about this wording but it's better than it was before so used
that
as well.


> - The addition of deprecations themselves is not considered a breaking
> change (to resolve the discussion that comes up for each and every
> bulk-deprecation RFC, when you convert Deprecations into Exceptions
> that's on you).
>

So this would probably require the full definition of BC break and list this
as part of it. It might need more point though. I will think about it and
try to
integrate it somehow.


> - The addition of new symbols (e.g. functions or classes) might conflict
> with user-defined classes, but this is not considered a breaking change.
> An RFC should make a best effort to minimize the impact of a new
> function name by choosing among equally good names (but not
> unnecessarily choose a worse name, just because it is less likely to
> break). This is already implied by it being legal to add features
> without an RFC, but would be good to spell out explicitly.
>

Another point for the BC break definition I think.

Kind regards,

Jakub

Reply via email to