> On Dec 12, 2025, at 9:26 PM, Hans Henrik Bergan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> trivial to make in userland.
Sure, almost everything is trivial to make in userland and re-use as a function.
> how about making a composer coerce package first,
> give it some time, check if it becomes popular,
> and if it does catch on, reconsider adding it to core?
I don’t think so. There’s no node-js world with left-pad function.
People prefer to write plain php instead of re-using external function that’s
needed to be downloaded and correctly loaded with autoload. Too much effort to
re-use.
Moreover, event if a function is quite popular, it doesn’t mean it should be
bundled: `dd` / `dump` / `u` / any Laravel global functions that’s users think
it’s bundled.
I think it’s better to grep the world with structural search and find some
cases:
- condition($a) ? $a : expr()
- if (condition($a)) { $a = expr() }
With more or less popular use-cases:
- $a == ‘desc’ ? ‘desc’ : ‘asc’
- $a == ’true’ ? ’true' : ‘false’
- $a > 10 ? 10 : ($a < 0 ? 0 : $a)
- max(0, min($a, 10)
- in_array($key, $values) ? $key : $default
- array_key_exist($key, $values) ? $values[$key] : $default
- isset($values[$key]) ? $values[$key] : $default
- any similar
It could be done if I prepare RFC and it will be necessary. Firstly, I’d like
to discuss the idea itself.
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Best regards,
Dmitrii Derepko.
@xepozz
