Hi
Am 2025-12-16 09:08, schrieb Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]:
I also agree with Matthew but the reversed proposed here looks very
very
awkward to me. I think the most natural thing is the “as” but I may
have
missed the discussion on why it had to be changed.
Thinking of foreach ($array as $value), an item from the array (left)
is
assigned to $value (right).
This is the way to read the "as" syntax, yes; as I've said in a few
places, a Context Manager is like an iterator that goes around once.
That definition doesn't make sense to me. An iterator that only ever
emits a single value is not actually iterating anything and it would
never occur me to interpret it like that. As I had also noted in my
reply https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/129582, it is absolutely
magic to me that `break;` would target `using()`.
My favourite among my own suggestions was "using($cValue from new
CM())", but Larry didn't like the reversed order. I also suggested
'using(new CM() for $cValue)", but I don't think that's as clear.
FWIW: Using `from` would be somewhat consistent with `yield from`. Using
`for` would effectively invent another meaning for an existing keyword,
something that folks disliked for `use()` as the initial block scoping
keyword.
Best regards
Tim Düsterhus
