On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 at 07:27 Rob Landers <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026, at 19:11, Edmond Dantes wrote:
>
> > I think doing such a large project, mainly by
> > yourself as the sole designed and developer, is doomed to fail. It isn't
> > something I would be confident about voting for, at least.
>
> One of the reasons this project doesn’t have more programmers is that
> nobody believes it will be accepted.
> In other words, your fear of voting for the project is the reason
> there are no developers.
>
>
> I don’t think that’s universally true, or at least it hasn’t been my
> experience.
>
> I’ve worked on plenty of projects that ultimately failed, and the risk of
> failure itself isn’t a blocker for me. I’ve read through the code, I
> understand the design, and I’ve worked on schedulers and low-level systems
> before. From a purely technical standpoint, this is work I’d normally be
> very interested in contributing to.
>
> When I personally stepped back, it wasn’t due to doubts about acceptance,
> but due to the way feedback and collaboration have played out so far. In
> both on-list and off-list discussions, I didn’t see concrete feedback being
> meaningfully incorporated, even at a small or incremental level. That made
> it hard for me to gauge whether collaboration would actually influence the
> direction of the project.
>
> I want to be clear about something important, though: this isn’t a lack of
> interest in asynchronous capabilities in PHP, nor a lack of willingness to
> help. I think many people would like to see PHP move forward here. But for
> a project of this size and impact, contributors need to feel that concerns
> are being heard, trade-offs are being explored together, and iteration is
> genuinely collaborative.
>
> If the process moves in that direction, breaking things down, explicitly
> engaging with criticism, and evolving the design based on shared input, I
> think you may find that more people are willing to invest time and energy
> into it.
>
>
> — Rob
>


I share the exact same sentiment here. The likelihood that the project
might fail is actually the reason why I keep coming back and trying to
contribute to the conversation and I would actually be happy to help steer
the project towards an approval. But every reply I write is dismissed as if
I’m just wrong in what I’m saying, which is either true and someone else
who isn’t wrong will be a better contributor or is false and there is no
way for me to help the project get approved under the dismissive attitude.

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