On 2/4/26 11:16, Volker Dusch wrote:
On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 1:39 AM Ben Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:

I've voted "no" on this RFC since the RFC says the proposed PHP version
is PHP 8.5, which I interpret as meaning PHP 8.6, since 8.5 was released
in November.

Even if PHP 8.6 is the proposed version, I still think the target
version should be PHP 9.0, since this is a BC break. I mentioned my
concern about this being a BC break in the discussion thread.

The RFC is also clear this is a BC break. It says:

  > This is a **backward incompatible change**. Scripts that rely on
  > `trim()` *preserving* leading or trailing Form Feed characters will
  > be affected.

I'm a little surprised by the number of folks who voted "yes" on this,
despite it being very clear this is a BC break and PHP "Next" is the
implied proposed version.

Cheers,
Ben



I would urge you to reconsider. Pushing all bug fixes with extremely
minor BC implications into a single release that happens every 5-7
years will create problems with adoption.

This fix should, imho, very clearly go into 8.6.

Every minor ships with a BC list. E.g.
https://www.php.net/manual/en/migration85.incompatible.php and there
is nothing I can think of that is more minor than this change (maybe
except adding deprecations).

Kind regards,
Volker



FWIW, I didn't call for the voting to be stopped. I pointed out the RFC was changed on the day voting began to target PHP 8.5 (from 8.6) without notifying the list, and I was worried those who voted might not have noticed the change.

Cheers,
Ben

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