Hey Tim

On 09.07.26 20:12, Tim Düsterhus wrote:
Hi

On 2026-07-09 13:58, Nick Sdot wrote:
At the time `__unserialize` is called the object exists, and the property is initialised with the default value. So it fails in the same way a re-assignment in the constructor or reflection `setValue()` will fail. So, I wouldn't say "not a situation we have so far", but agree that spelling it out cannot be wrong. RFC section is updated, and your PR comment example added as a test!

Yes, it would be a situation we do not yet have so far: As far as I can tell there is no way for a readonly property to be preinitialized when unserialization happens. This means that it is not not observable that the non-hooked serialization path ignores `readonly`. What is effectively guaranteed right now is that using a custom `__unserialize()` hook that loops over the given array and assigns all properties will behave identically to non-hooked serialization. This would no longer be the case as of this RFC.

There is two options here:

- The non-hooked unserialization path must also error out when trying to unserialize into a readonly property with a default value. - __unserialize() must be able to unserialize into a readonly property with a default value, similarly to __clone().

But the current situation of “__unserialize() is less powerful than the standard unserialization” is not acceptable, because it prevents introducing `__unserialize()` on a class with a readonly property with default values.


It would not really have prevented using `__unserialize()` on a class with a readonly property with default values. But fair, I don't have a strong opinion here. Given that clone-with also allows modification of already initialised readonly properties your proposed option #2 is sound.

I updated the PR and RFC

Best regards
Tim Düsterhus

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Cheers
Nick

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