در تاریخ پنجشنبه ۲۷ اوت ۲۰۲۶، ۱۴:۲۳ youkidearitai <[email protected]> نوشت:
> 2026年8月26日(水) 20:44 سپهر محمودی <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > > در تاریخ چهارشنبه ۲۶ اوت ۲۰۲۶، ۰۵:۴۹ Pierre Joye <[email protected]> > نوشت: > >> > >> Hi Osama, > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2026 at 1:48 AM Osama Aldemeery <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> > Not trying to speak for anyone here, but it seems like the concern > >> > about AI use on the list isn't really about helping with translation > >> > or other genuine values of AI. That has been said explicitly more than > >> > once, and I don't think anyone has actually argued against it. > >> > > >> > What has been objected to, though, is a tool authoring the argument > >> > itself, with a person just forwarding it as their own. > >> > >> I would be interested to know how to differentiate this. It will aslo > >> pop ups quickly during discussions. > >> > >> Watermark maybe? ;-) > >> > >> > If that is roughly right, then I think the problem isn't really about > >> > using AI per se, it's probably more about > >> > engagement/authenticity/authorship. Which is something a policy could > >> > probably be written around. > >> > >> Please no more policies. It is already too much and one needs a Sr VP > >> of compliance to parse some of the existing one to make sense of them. > >> > >> > Additionally, a written policy would make it easier for those who rely > >> > on AI to blend in by drawing the guardrails and explicitly stating > >> > what is and isn't acceptable. Something that would keep the list as > >> > welcoming as it has always been without draining people's energy. > >> > >> If we start to add even more barriers, we are not welcoming, we are > >> guarding railing contributions on subjective interpretation of what > >> one wrote, or how. > >> > >> Best, > >> -- > >> Pierre > >> > >> @pierrejoye > > > > > > ---------- > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Please, let's bring this discussion to an end. > > > > Continuing this thread is only hurting PHP's reputation and disrespects > the immense hard work of esteemed contributors like Rasmus Lerdorf. > > > > As a newcomer and a contributor specifically to the ext/intl extension, > I believe there's no reason for us to cause unnecessary tension among > ourselves. The current policies are already in place, and we cannot perform > miracles overnight. > > > > Let's focus our energy on building and improving PHP together. > > > > Best regards, > > Sepehr > > > > Hi Sepehr > > > Continuing this thread is only hurting PHP's reputation and disrespects > the immense hard work of esteemed contributors like Rasmus Lerdorf. > > That is not for you to say. > To reconfirm your position: your using the AI that trying communicate us. > Your position is tolerated by a small number of non-native English > speakers, likes we. > > However, If you undermine that trust, you will immediately lose your > position. > If that happens, the community will likely conclude that there is no > point in saying anything to the AI. > > Please be careful. > Yuya > -- > --------------------------- > Yuya Hamada (tekimen) > - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info > - https://github.com/youkidearitai > ----------------------------- > Dear Yuya—I really like you all, but there is one thing I need to tell you as a developer. At first, Mr. Chris snapped at me over this issue, and a few days later, Mr. Larry was extremely rude—even bringing up the "trash can" analogy—yet I didn't say a word in return. I don't use AI—because AI isn't capable of speaking so fluently. God willing, I am set to become an official contributor to the `intl` extension; I am currently designing the `array_str_contains` function. I even work using Gmail on my phone—which is much harder than using the desktop version—yet you’ve all decided to gang up on poor old me. Mr. Yuya, I actually included a Japanese example on my RFC page—specifically for your sake. I am truly grateful for everyone's comments. sepehr >
