Hey Rowan,

On 08.09.26 06:17, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:

That's great that someone finally got in touch. Does he have access to provide a database dump, so we can fill in the missing bug data?


That was brought up. Unfortunately, the user accounts are gone. Hence, the bug data cannot be provided.

This is great, because A) everyone involved agrees on the goal and B) this makes the vote a formality.

Unless you know something I don't, Chuck's agreement is just one vote, not any kind of final authority. He is listed at https://pear.php.net/group/ as one of eight members of "the PEAR Group", so in theory the other seven could decide they want to continue the project. In fact, the Group was supposed to be re-elected annually, so even their collective authority is shaky if anyone really wanted to replace them.


Chuck is the one who had the authority to archive the repos in the PEAR GitHub organisation.

Also, allow me to highlight the "Non-goals" section of the RFC:

> The goal is not to take over the governance of the independent PEAR package ecosystem. *If an independent PEAR team wants to continue PEAR as an active project, they remain free to do so under domains they control.*


In practice, he's the only person involved who anyone has managed to track down, and even that took several months, so I think we're safe to say nobody's that interested.

That too, yes.


In other news, I noticed the mirror you created didn't yet have much styling, so I've put together a quick PR copying in the colours and basic styles from the existing site, plus an idea I had for a "locked PEAR" logo: https://github.com/NickSdot/pear/pull/1

Thanks, Rowan! I am fine with that. One thing I'd add: I think having the "locked PEAR" is nice. Not sure about the favicon change. It's will be a The PHP Group hosted archive, not the successor of the PEAR project. Keeping the PHP favicon feels more sound to me, personally. But I happily leave that decision to you and others (infra team?).

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Cheers
Nick

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