> On 6 Nov 2026, at 00:46, Larry Garfield <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.  Based on the feedback and problems with the previous Context 
> Managers RFC, Arnaud and I have a new approach to present:
> 
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/context-managers-v2
> 
> It basically swaps the two-method approach in favor of "it's a generator, 
> you're welcome."  The result is, I think, both simpler and more flexible, and 
> resolves a number of other issues as well.  More details in the RFC.
> 
> There is a linked implementation, though Arnaud warns it's only partially 
> complete so go easy on it. :-)  But the design in the RFC is all ready for 
> review.
> 
> --
>  Larry Garfield
>  [email protected]
> 

Hi Larry, 

TLDR: why `=>` rather than `as`?

As a userland developer I like what this is trying to achieve. I'm not 
knowledgeable enough about the internals to comment on the finer details or 
their ramifications - I just have a bike shedding suggestion/question which 
seemed glaring to me so I wonder if it's because of an ambiguous syntax or some 
other issue?

The `=>` symbol seems odd to me, given how it's used elsewhere (generally as an 
indicator of a key/value pair, whether in an array or match block) and how 
generators/iterables are used elsewhere (ie foreach as)

Your example is:

using (file_for_write('file.txt') => $fp) {

Whereas to my eye this seems like a much more obvious choice:

using (file_for_write('file.txt') as $fp) {

Anyway, just a thought. 

Cheers

Stephen

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