Perhaps not many will use it, that doesn't mean it's useful. I don't have much use of the Reflection stuff either, nor do I see its general usefulness. That doesn't mean I am against having it in PHP because it is useful. In the previous thread we already saw where the labelled break was useful, and I would like to see the proposed patch committed.
Derick On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Andi Gutmans wrote: > Yeah but my point was that even people for who it isn't scary (the devs) don't > use it very much :) It's just something which isn't needed very often. So > we're wasting lots of bandwidth on something which not many will use anyway :) > > Andi > > At 02:54 PM 2/18/2006, Steph Fox wrote: > >Agreed it's not used very much. That's because people like me think it's > >scary :) and that's _exactly_ what I was trying to say. > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "internals" <internals@lists.php.net> > >Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:48 AM > >Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks > > > > > > >It's just something which to begin with isn't used that much. > > >Grep'ed phpweb/ for it and found 0 occurrences of break n; and I believe > > >the people developing it would be the ones who would know how to use it. > > > > > >Andi > > > > > >At 02:33 PM 2/18/2006, Steph Fox wrote: > > > >I personally find working with numbers difficult, which is why I'm wholly > > > >in support of this patch. > > > > > > > >I doubt I'm the only PHP user with that issue, due to the 'ease of use' > > > >that allows people with no history of computer science to write useful > > > >scripts (for which, thank you all). But I wouldn't expect a great deal of > > > >sympathy on that point from CS graduates. > > > > > > > >nb I think implementing goto/equivalent itself is a fairly bad idea - I > > > >appear to be in the minority on that issue. But I don't see any problem > > > >with introducing labels, I just see it as a more user-friendly way of > > > >allowing nested breaks. > > > > > > > >Am I very wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "internals" > > > ><internals@lists.php.net> > > > >Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:30 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] True labelled breaks > > > > > > > > > > > > >I think that in 1997 when break/continue n where implemented it would > > > > >have been a nice idea, but at this stage except for being more elegant > > > > >than break/continue n it doesn't truly add anything substantial to PHP > > > > >(and as you already mentioned it's orthogonal to the goto discussion). > > > > >I think having more than 1 way of doing the same thing, in this case, > > > > >might just end up confusing people developing with PHP (i.e. the Perl > > > > >way :) > > > > > > > > > >Just for the record I am coming at this from an open mind. Dmitry did > > > > >spend time on this patch, etc... > > > > > > > > > >I'd recommend to bed it once and for all. > > > > > > > > > >At 09:16 AM 2/18/2006, Steph Fox wrote: > > > > > >Guys and guyess, > > > > > > > > > > > >Sara and Dmitry's patch to introduce labelled breaks was discussed on > > > > > >internals@ ever-so-briefly at the beginning of December, but there > > > > > >was never any decision made over it. > > > > > > > > > > > >Given that practically everyone who survived the preceding GOTO > > > > > >discussion seemed to think it was a good idea at the time, could you > > > > > >please re-visit it, evaluate it, discuss it (as opposed to talking > > > > > >about GOTO, which is unrelated) and either OK it or put it to bed for > > > > > >once and for all? > > > > > > > > > > > >Relevant summary is at > > > > > >http://www.zend.com/zend/week/week265.php#Heading3 > > > > > >Relevant patch is at http://www.zend.com/zend/week/pat/index.php > > > > > > > > > > > >And if it's worth anything, +1 from me. > > > > > > > > > > > >- Steph > > > > > >-- > > > > > >PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > > > > >To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > > > >To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>__________ NOD32 1.1380 (20060125) Information __________ > > > > > > > > > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > > >http://www.eset.com > > > > > >-- > > >PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > >To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > >>__________ NOD32 1.1380 (20060125) Information __________ > > > > > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > >http://www.eset.com > > > > > -- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl | http://ez.no | http://xdebug.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
