hi ilia,

PHP works just fine with newer version of autoconf and automake.  For
example I am using autoconf 2.60 and automake 1.9.6 and not
experiencing any build issues. One of the reasons we recommend
autoconf 2.13 is because it has a non-broken implementation of config
test caching and unlike autoconf 2.60 does not require re-running of
every configuration test on PHP rebuild.

yes, i know it "works" fine :-) in fact, i personally build/use php 52cvs with:

        autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.60
        automake (GNU automake) 1.9.6

on my osx 10.4.8 box.

the problem is that *other* php-related projects' code breaks with recent versions of automake.

of course, i 1st tried to talk to the project's developer about the issue.

the response was, roughly, that -- since php "only supports automake 1.4" that they'll only support v1.4.

which is all fine & good -- except when the developer of the 'other' project is also ON the php-development team as well.

in response to questions abt this @ #php, one dev's response -- probably very accurate -- is that this is the case because "autoconf issues are boring to work on".

one great big catch-22 :-(

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