For an outsider, an RFC would be a great mechanism. This will let us users see what future development is planned without having to be part of the inner group. Considering how much is done in IRC and therefore not visible to a lot of people after the fact, a formalized process would actually give the core developers some breathing space to actually get there job done.
Not that they are not doing a good job. That is not what I mean. It would allow them to put down their plans have then discussed and the current situation be visible instantly without the need to resort to reading archives of a newsgroup. IMO (humble or otherwise) email/newsgroups/IRC is not the best way to conduct the future development of the excellent PHP. Maybe the discussion starts there (Hey! I've a great idea), but once some thought has gone into it, it needs to be concreted for others to REALLY review. And an RFC mechanism should be available for that. It may need nothing more than a rigidly administered forums/BB (phpBB anyone).Only on topic replies directly related to the RFC. Initially anyway. On 21/11/06, LAUPRETRE François (P) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mathias Bank wrote: >Well, I have never said, that this is easy. But instead of telling "no" >to ideas like ifsetor operator (or something else), we could say: "well >no: there will be a general solution". And this solution must not be >invented, it "just" has to be integrated - we can look at lisp and how >it is implemented there. Of course this is no job for a week or a month >(so surely not for php 6). I published this feature request to discuss >the idea with you php developers because you should know it best, if it >is possible and if there are ways, to achieve this (and what are the ways). > >So, there is no reason to be cynical. I completely agree. I don't understand why some people on this list always give this kind of reply. You can give an idea and be unable to realize it. An idea is a contribution by itself. When you get such a reply, what do you understand ? Just that "If you are not ready to submit a patch, keep your idea for you". But coding is just one of the steps, bringing a good idea is at least as valuable. Once again, I submit an idea which got no reply yet: I propose to establish a more formal process for RFCs. You all know that the mailing list is perfect for many things, but not for somebody to propose something. If your suggestion is well thought, you certainly will need more than 10 lines to detail it. And, posting it to the list inserts it in a flow where it will probably disappear. Creating a real RFC process would, IMHO, bring many benefits. What do you think about it ? Regards Francois -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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