Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
FYI: You are mistaken if you think that moving from the old extensions to PDO provides a speed improvement (there is rather decrease unless you are using fetchAll()).

Sorry, I wasn't clear on this. Creole is the DB abstraction layer on top of the "old extensions". The older versions of Propel were implemented that way. The new beta version uses PDO dicrectly (i.e. minus Creole) and that showed significant speed improvements over prior versions.

And this imho is the thing that should definitely stay in userland. Its a giant hackery to get it to work. This is something people need to be able to adapt quickly. Putting this in C would be a maintenance nightmare.

I could see that.  Just wanted to float the idea out there for discussion.

--Tony

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