Please, guys, take this argument off list if you want to continue it at all.

The main point Andrei tried to make was lost in that argument. PHP 6 needs commitment from everybody involved, somewhere along the line, and we all - even hangers-on like me - need to know that someone _will_ step up to make filtering possible if we're to believe in PHP 6 ever happening.

Johannes and Tony both made good points. There are still issues with streams, but more - there are real problems in the way that PHP_5_2 is seen by many devs as the current development branch.

There needs to be a sitting-back, at some point, and a 'where are we up to?' moment. Lukas has done his utmost to provide that already, but it hasn't changed anything that way. I'm still watching commits to PHP_5_2 that are never merged to HEAD, and not only in ext/pdo.

You still need to beat the Perl 6 release folks ;) but maybe pushing too hard isn't the way to go about it... I don't know. I just know the commitment hasn't been made yet for it to happen.

- Steph


----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrei Zmievski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pierre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Marcus Boerger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <internals@lists.php.net>; "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dmitry Stogov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 Preview


Oh no, you're not my problem anymore.

-Andrei


On May 17, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Pierre wrote:

On 5/17/07, Andrei Zmievski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Go take a pill.

-Andrei

P.S. Open Source volunteering still implies a level of commitment.

As well as respect, something you don't have. But this stupid answer
just made my point. Fine, your problem.

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