Hello David,

Wednesday, September 5, 2007, 4:19:05 AM, you wrote:

> On 9/5/07, Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What is the problem with those objects? Basically there are at least three
>> seperated memory areas involved. First the zend_object container, the real
>> object and one or several zvals. The gc would simply have to decrease
>> refcount on zend_objects if their zval gets down to zero and then leave
>> zend_object gc'ing to the object storage.

> Hmm, maybe we have a misunderstanding here because I don't quite
> understand what you mean. :) In that paragraph, I was saying how
> implementing a traditional tracing garbage collector would mean
> refcounts are no longer necessary. These macros track refcounts, so
> they would also be no longer necessary.

All true, yet at soume point your gc will free a zval - and a zval only -
unless you also use the gc'ing for every object storage in use. Either way
zvals and their objects are seperate things and multiple *different* zvals
can point to the same object in an object storage.

>> Question for development, how do we ensure that starting from a specific
>> point in time we enforce usage of those macros? The one thing that comes
>> into my mind is that we could have the members [is_ref,refcount] prefixed
>> with something different when running in debug mode, or insert some random
>> prefix there....(?)

> In my own code, I have a "__gc" on refcount and is_ref so I get thrown
> an error if there's a place I failed to macroize. I removed that for
> this patch, but that's a very good point. If there are no objections,
> that or another prefix or suffix can be put back into the patch.

> David



Best regards,
 Marcus

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