On Jan 13, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
Voting to achieve what?
Fair decisions in a simpler, effective and right manner (and not
discutable, ideally).
I do not consider "fairness", whatever that could mean, having
anything to do with technical decisions regarding PHP,
I vote that PHP should get a pony! Who's with me!
Voting is good in that it helps express the wills and desires *of
those who vote*. Some of those opinions may be wrong, insane, or
silly, but it provides a means to evaluate an opinion professed by a
group, rather than as an individual.
IMSHO, for PHP, voting is an *informative*, not *conformative*, process.
Let's take two arguments, with different heritages, authors, and
origins.
Suoshin patches.
mysql_session patches.
We could have 100% voted desire to make all of these HEAD, and still
say "No."
Voting expresses voter *will*, not outcome. For the former and
latter, these are feature, not technical, requests.
neither I think counting votes is the process that allows to arrive
to a decision best for PHP.
That's why votes influence, but do not determine, outcomes.
I personally know very little about some areas of PHP code,
It's a big club. We should get T-shirts.
and it make little sense that my vote would carry the same weight
as opinion of the person that wrote and maintains the code. There's
nothing in arithmetic majority of people that makes any decision
better, more effective, more right and not disputable. Thousands of
people can be wrong as easy as one person can be, and one person
can be as right as a thousand.
True, that.
For those not versed in US-style democracy, the way we do it here is
to elect (theoretically) somebody with a clue. Their one "clue"
easily vote trumps thousands.
The thing is, is that, well, if Rasmus, Zeev, Andi, Wez, *whoever*
has a big voice, stopped listening or went insane or *whatever*, we
have to have a way of fixing such a case.
Also, vast majority of PHP users never read this list and would
know nothing of any votes held or announced here, so representing
that as a poll reflecting opinion of a millions-wide PHP community
makes no sense whatsoever.
Agreed.
-Ronabop
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