On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 10:09 -0500, Elizabeth M Smith wrote: > Wow, you guys sure are a bit harsh .... > > Here's the problem - there's a group of people who really want true (I > might say "javaish") type-hints for scalar values - int, bool, string, > float, and won't settle for anything less. > > There's a group who thinks type hints are stupid because of the way php > does type juggling - and since most of these people have karma their > votes "count more". > > There's a group who just want some kind of type hinting completion for > the current implementation - whether it's "meta types" like resource, > object, array, scalar, or the more "javaish" int, bool, string, etc. > They'll settle for the lesser implementation in order to placate the > "votes count more" group who thinks type hints violate php type juggling > just so they can have SOMETHING.
Right, basically we're willing to compromise. I have listened to the anti type hinting people, and can understand where they're coming from. I'm proposing this as a solution that agrees with both of our philosophies on type hinting. > I think people in the first group having a verbal fit at those who fall > into the last group because they want "all or nothing" is counterproductive. > > The conversation that needs to take place should be between the "type > hints are stupid" people and the "type hints are useful" people, all > this whining about "all or nothing" doesn't help the essential conversation. > I've already stated my opinion on the subject. I'd like something - I'd > prefer the string, int, bool, float route but would settle for a scalar, > resource, object implementation as well. As long as I'm dreaming - both > would be very useful. But there's already been a "vote" so unless minds > can be changed this is nothing more than mailing list traffic ;) The vote was on int/float/string/bool. The only reason I brought this back up is that I am now proposing scalar only. The most compelling arguments that were made against having int/float/string/bool type hinting do not apply to a scalar only type hint, I think more people will agree with me now. Scalar is better than nothing. It gives me some of the type hinting I want, while still fully complying with PHP's type juggling nature. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
