Hello Ilia, given our current development model I completely agree. Thus I would like to change it as described earlier. I am convinced that only following the even=stable & odd=dev/testing model allows for longer maintenanance cycles and fast development at the same time.
marcus Monday, December 8, 2008, 8:11:03 PM, you wrote: > In my opinion a big change like droping something that was and still > used by many people are a "security measure", albeit a poor one is > something that can only be done in a major release. > On 8-Dec-08, at 10:47 AM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: >> Hi, >> >> let's take this to a new thread so it'S not hidden in other >> discussions: >> >> On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 16:06 +0100, Hannes Magnusson wrote: >>>> I do not think it is necessary for 5.3. It is an alpha release after >>>> all and seriously, anyone who plans to move to 5.3.0 and still >>>> relies on magic quotes gpc is likely to have more issues as well. >>> >>> Time to turn it off by default then? >> >> Getting rid of magic_quotes would be really nice but has a very big >> "BUT". >> >> Many things (I won't call it "applications" or something...) out there >> are accidentially more or less safe due to magic_quotes. Many of these >> things were written by people with, at most, basic understanding of >> the >> what they are doing and now are running at some random hosting company >> on a $9.99/year (no idea what today's prices are) >> >> When dropping magic_quotes the hosting company can do one of two >> things: >> >> a) not update to 5.3 so we either have to maintain 5.2 for some time >> or >> let them have problems >> >> b) update to 5.3. Doing that means they break many of there customer's >> code. Now they could add a default filter to add quotes again, what's >> the win? Except that it will break magic_quotes-compatible code and >> makes it harder to detect? >> >> People won't fix the code - the code was "developed" by some web >> design >> company 5 years ago and nobody touches the site anymore and there's no >> maintenance contract between the design company and the site owner >> anymore... >> >> The only way I see for getting rid of magic_quotes is with a version >> which will require people to touch the code anyways and with a big >> "marketing campaign" so I think PHP 6 is a way better time for that >> even >> so I'm really annoyed by it when doing stuff myself... >> >> Comments and other views are welcome, >> johannes >> >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> > Ilia Alshanetsky Best regards, Marcus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
