On 15 March 2010 21:43, Larry Garfield <la...@garfieldtech.com> wrote: > On Monday 15 March 2010 03:08:28 pm Nate Gordon wrote: > >> > If there were a syntactic-level support for "wrap this object in this >> > class and pass through any method that isn't redefined", a sort of >> > sideways extends, >> > that would become much simpler. I'm not sure what that would look like, >> > though. >> > >> > Or perhaps this is a good time to revisit the traits proposal from a few >> > months back? >> >> While traits do seem pretty cool, the fundamental problem appears to be >> that Framework X doesn't let me do what I want. Unfortunately that is the >> side effect of using a framework, it does things for you. I had attempted >> to build a system like this in userland code to dynamically replace >> classes in my framework, but scrapped it because I could only see ways in >> which it would be abused. If someone replaces a class buried in a >> framework, that modifies some bit of functionality, which is depended on >> by a completely unrelated area of the framework, it could potentially >> cause issues that would be very hard to track down. This sounds a lot >> like aspect oriented programming in the ability to completely overwrite a >> function with userland code. >> >> I feel like the better solution is to fix the framework to allow the >> flexibility to do what you want in a controlled manner, and not bend the >> language to fix the framework. I don't mean to say that PHP is problem >> free or perfect, but I'm not sure this is the best method to fix the >> problem at hand. > > Certainly true; it's not PHP's job to work around framework flaws. However, > if > PHP can make it easier to make frameworks that don't have common flaws, that > is > something it can and IMO should do. > > Traits wouldn't fix the issue mentioned here, but might allow the framework to > be written in a way that doesn't have, or at least ameliorates, these sorts of > issues. > > Or perhaps there's a different approach besides traits that would work better. > I dunno. :-) > > --Larry Garfield
The ability to "registerASubClassForThisClass" idea (don't know the proper name for this), has certainly worked for me. -- ----- Richard Quadling "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!" EE : http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_248814.html EE4Free : http://www.experts-exchange.com/becomeAnExpert.jsp Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731 ZOPA : http://uk.zopa.com/member/RQuadling -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
