Oops, should've sent this to the list too.

----- Forwarded message from Alexander Schrijver 
<alexander.schrij...@gmail.com> -----

Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:28:59 +0100
From: Alexander Schrijver <alexander.schrij...@gmail.com>
To: James Butler <james.but...@edigitalresearch.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: [SPAM]  Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM 
to T_DOUBLE_COLON
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 12:23:07PM +0000, James Butler wrote:
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Schrijver [mailto:alexander.schrij...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 01 November 2010 12:19
> To: Stefan Marr
> Cc: Dennis Haarbrink; Stan Vass; internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: [SPAM] Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM 
> to T_DOUBLE_COLON
> 
> On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 12:59:54PM +0100, Stefan Marr wrote:
> > 
> > On 01 Nov 2010, at 12:06, Alexander Schrijver wrote:
> > > Its a minor change and an annoyance to a lot of people. Yes, by not 
> > > changing
> > > this you'r annoying thousands of people.
> > Instead of going for this cosmetic nonsense you should help those people on 
> > the lemon branch.
> > I am insulted every time I have to read a parser token name in an error 
> > message, instead of a sensible error message.
> > The cost of understanding T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM as part of the current 
> > mumbo-jumbo is completely insignificant compared to the cost of actually 
> > understanding the error message just indicating what the parser would have 
> > expected. 
> > 
> > Changing to lemon is the only way to actually achieve something in the long 
> > run...
> 
> Right, and be forced to introduce some bullshit hebrew when its done. No, 
> thank you.
> 
> Err, the entire point is that it won't matter what the underlying token is. 
> The error as seen can be anything you want it to be, or at least you can have 
> a fight about what the new message looks like and i'm sure there won't really 
> be a compelling reason for it to be in hebrew (unless localized).
> Please grow up...


It's the policy:
> There are two reasons this term will stay.  It is a tip of the hat to
> the amount of PHP work that came out of Israel, and it is a good              
>                                       
> reminder that there are a lot of other languages in the world.  People
> whose first language is not English, myself included, are forced to work
> with unfamiliar terms every day.  I wouldn't mind having a few more           
>                                      
> non-English identifiers in PHP actually.                                      
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>                                                                               
>                                    
> Well, and a third reason, I like it.            

There is some reason this policy will change after i write this new tokenizer?


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