Hi,
 thanks to sesser, he point out that this won't work for string keys,

 so, I guess, we should change the hash logic in the mean time.. I
will keep trying.

thanks

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Etienne Kneuss <col...@php.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 13:05, Nikita Popov <nikita....@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Laruence <larue...@php.net> wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>>    the origin thread is too long, so I open a new thread for this.
>>>
>>>    I have made another patch try to fix this issue.
>>>
>>>    the key point is, randomizing the table size(tableMask).
>>>
>>>    instead of double the the table size in zend_hash_do_resize,  I
>>> increase the table size with a random delta ( the value now is just a
>>> try,  we can change it to a more appropriate value),
>>>  that is:  new_table_size = old_table_size * 2 + random_num.
>>>
>>>    then,  the collision can not be predicatible, which fix the
>>> problem,  and also fixed the issue in json/soap/serialize etc.
>>>
>>>    here is the patch(draft now):
>>> https://bugs.php.net/patch-display.php?bug_id=60655&patch=rand_hash_resize.patch&revision=latest
>>>
>>>    after this fix , may slow down the php, but compared to the
>>> security threat I thinks the cost could be ignored.
>>>
>>>    for the test script list in
>>> http://nikic.github.com/2011/12/28/Supercolliding-a-PHP-array.html:
>>>
>>>    *before patched:
>>>        Inserting 65536 evil elements took 162.65940284729 seconds
>>>        Inserting 65536 good elements took 0.075557947158813 seconds
>>>
>>>    *after  patched:
>>>        Inserting 65536 evil elements took 0.074128866195679 seconds
>>>        Inserting 65536 good elements took 0.091044902801514 seconds
>>>
>>>    what do you think ?
>>
>> At least one problem with your patch is that it uses crypto safe
>> random numbers. The problem with that is that the very frequent random
>> number fetches could deplete the entropy pool and thus make
>> /dev/urandom (and probably the Windows RNG too) block. So you would
>> again have a DOS vulnerability (just create many small arrays with 16
>> elements so they get resized a few times). Additionally this could
>> also impose a security threat to other application that rely on the
>> entropy source.
>
> In essence there should only be the need for one random number per
> request, so it should be fine in that regard.
>
>>
>> Nikita
>>
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