On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:44 AM, John LeSueur <john.lesu...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Jannik Zschiesche <he...@apfelbox.net
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > Am 15.04.2012 08:20, schrieb John LeSueur:
> >
> >  Since you're looking for input, specifically on the compromise, let's
> try
> >> to figure out what's possible. The RFC proposes .phpp files that can
> only
> >> include other .phpp files. Others want .phpp files that can include .php
> >> files. There are two ways I can think of to accomplish this.
> >>
> >> 1. an ini switch. This is a bad idea, because it causes code written
> under
> >> one setting to be impossible to use in the other setting.
> >> 2. 3 file types.<?php,<?phpp,<?php~p (read:<?php almost pure) We'd need
> >> something better than that last one, but what it means is that _this_
> file
> >> is pure php, but it may include an embedded script somewhere.
> >>
> >> Between those two options, I would choose 2. Just to be clear, if I had
> a
> >> third choice, which was to make no change, it would be #3.
> >>
> >> The second thing that still needs nailing down as far as implementation
> is
> >> how to determine parsing mode. If it has to be specified at include
> time,
> >> then we're putting the burden on whoever writes the autoloader to know
> >> what
> >> kind of file it is. If it has to be specified in php.ini, or in the sapi
> >> configuration, then I'm putting the burden on the administrator. I want
> to
> >> allow the developer who writes the file to specify its parsing mode.
> >>
> >> The two ways I see for developers to do so is to use variations on the
> >> <?php header of the file, or by file extension. I prefer variations on
> the
> >> <?php header, because file extension still depends on configuration in
> >> order to work, so involves admins in the decision of how to parse the
> php
> >> files that I write.
> >>
> >> <?php means just what it does now.
> >> <?phpp means, disallow ?>, and error if there is anything before the
> >> header. The RFC specifies an additional restriction, throw error if I
> >> include file with<?php header.
> >> <?phpo (open to suggestions for the text of this header) means disallow
> >> ?>,
> >> and error if there is anything before the header.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I normally only read the discussions, instead of participate but I have a
> > short question about #2:
> > What is, if you mix the specified open tags?
> >
> > Look at this file:
> >
> > --- test.php
> > <?php
> >
> > /* ...snip... */
> >
> > ?>
> >
> > ...snip...
> >
> > <?phpp
> >
> > /* ...snip... */
> > --- EOF
> >
> >
> > Would this error out? Would this be ignored?
> > (not that this kind of file should be written like this, but
> > theoretically, it is possible)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jannik
> >
> >
> >
> This would error out. If anything appears before <?phpp, it's a parse
> error.
>

Keep in mind that the RFC isn't actually proposing this new tag.  We might
go with a new inclusion keyword instead.

If we had the .phpo type, regular .php files would in fact be includable
from them, so it would not break.

--Kris

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