On 17 April 2012 11:42,  <sle...@pipeline.com> wrote:
> Just b/c there are rarely any women at all that participate on this list, 
> could we at list maintain a facade of gender neutrality?  I seriously can't 
> believe that you used the word "him".  What about "her"?  Yeah, "her" as in 
> myself and every other woman who codes with PHP whether to earn her living or 
> to have a pleasant past-time?  I am sure that there are plenty of PHP women 
> just like me who  might really appreciate having the opportunity to vote on 
> changes that might effect the way we work.

While I am fully in support of PHP being inclusive towards men, women,
the transgendered community, and anyone else who is not covered by the
aforementioned categories, with respect, I don't believe Stas merited
the sarcastic flame he has received from you.

Singular "he" as a gender-neutral pronoun was taught as standard
English for a long time, and whilst it may not be the most politically
correct phrasing in the modern era, I doubt any offence or
non-inclusion was intended. Furthermore, many of the participants on
this list are not native English speakers, and the nuances and
politics of gender representation in a largely non-gendered language
like English are likely to be lost on them.

Hanlon's Razor would seem to apply.

> Currently, it's as clear as mud to me as to what I need to do to be able to 
> have some kind of voting impact.  The protocol or process needs to be clearly 
> articulated in very clear language so that all concerned PHP men and women 
> can be informed.

On that point, I doubt anyone disagrees.

Thanks,

Adam

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