Hi Kris, thanks for your response. Just a short note: I'm not in any ways officially related to PHP FIG, except that I find it personally to be a good initiative. Rest of the answers below.
Am 16.12.2012 um 11:50 schrieb Kris Craig <kris.cr...@gmail.com>: > My one concern with this idea is that it could give the erroneous impression > that the coding style standards your group advocates are endorsed, implicitly > or otherwise, by the PHP Group. There is no "official" standard when it > comes to spaces vs. tabs and whether to place brackets on the same line, for > example. Given how many different competing standards there are out there, I > fear that we could run the risk of showing favoritism by "legitimizing" one > standards group but not others. I see what you mean. On the other hand though, a majority of important PHP projects are organized there. We (as core developers) can’t ignore what these projects are discussing and I don't think we should. And if we have a saying in that, why shouldn’t we endorse such an initiative. > Personally, and I'm just speaking for myself here, I think you guys > over-reached with your PSR-2 style guidelines. I totally agree with your > goal of aiding consistency, but these standards are inherently arbitrary and > it makes me very uneasy to see anyone proclaim that such-and-such is the > "correct" style of doing something in PHP. The only solution I can see is to > create several different style rulesets to reflect all the noteworthy styles > in popular use. Of course, then you run the risk of undermining the whole > consistency goal. I, again, can’t speak for PHP FIG, but it seems to me like the survey technique worked out pretty well. So PSR-1 and PSR-2 are what most projects are doing anyway. > I wouldn't be adverse to us linking to your project, so long as we do the > same for any others that crop-up and we make it clear that these third-party > standards are not officially endorsed by the PHP Group. I also think it's > cool if anyone here wants to join your project and contribute, so long as > that person is representing him/her self. See point above. We can’t ignore what major players in the ecosystem do and I don't think we should. I would much rather see PHP core have a saying in their decisions than standing by the lines and letting things happen (which might even be counter-productive for core). cu, Lars -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php