On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Zeev Suraski <z...@zend.com> wrote:

> We definitely do not..

Well, open list, if some like to discuss it, we can. But see below, it
may not be necessary.

> To elaborate, the notion that we already have strict class types for
> classes, so we should have the same thing for scalar makes no sense at all.
> Here's why:
>
> 1. If it was the case, we'd add this right when we added class type hints
> (strict class types).

Just like we'd to add full OO concepts right with 5.0.

> 3. As I stated already, 'Dynamic Typing defines PHP, class type hints do
> not'.  Class type hints were added at a *MUCH* later stage, as a part of the
> major rollout of the new object model of PHP 5.  It was actually agreed that
> the *only* way we'd add such type hints is if we weren't going to have them
> for scalar types.
>
> What we have on the table right now - casting type hints - can be made to
> behave in a way that's consistent with the dynamic typing nature of PHP.

Except for the cases I listed in my 2nd mail, which you certainly did
not read. However, my mistake, I had an outdated version of the RFC
and clearing my local cache shows me the actual one, which matches
100% what I would like to see and wrote in my replies in this thread.

> My main concern about the RFC the way it stands right now is that the
> current direction involves E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR instead of E_STRICT or E_CAST
> for data loss.  This results in both consistency issues with casting as well
> as incompatibility with the dynamic nature of PHP scalars.  I know the RFC
> author (Andrea) disagrees with me about it, but I think we need to find a
> way to put this into a much wider decision.  Probably the most practical
> thing to do is to put it as a secondary question in the RFC, although those
> can be tricky.

I do not like these errors either, I would prefer to have the same
than with class arguments, consistent, easy to catch for the
developers. So yes, maybe a 2nd question about how bad arguments
should be handled would be a good thing.

Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

@pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org

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