Hi all, On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Andrea Faulds <a...@ajf.me> wrote:
> I’ve kept putting this off, but given the current “move phpng to master” > vote, I really can’t delay this any longer. > > It looks like PHP 7 is going to happen and phpng will be the base of that. > While we could move straight to PHP 7 after the release of PHP 5.6, I think > there is some merit in having one more 5.x release, namely 5.7, which would > follow our usual release process and come out next year. > > PHP 7, as a major release, is likely to take much longer than a usual > minor release. While some people might think one year is realistic, I > highly doubt that, as I suspect phpng will not be the only new feature PHP > 7 will contain. Major releases come with major changes, and I suspect some > others will crop up, and these might delay the release. Because it will > probably take two to three years, having a minor release in the meantime > means userland developers won’t be starved of new features which don’t need > to be in a major release and could be in a minor. > > Another point is that PHP 7 is probably going to break > backwards-compatibility more significantly than minors would. For starters, > phpng will break extension compatibility, and new proposals are likely to > break userland compatibility as well. By making 5.7 happen, developers will > have more time to switch to PHP 7 and can keep their existing codebases for > longer. > > As PHP 7 may break backwards-compatibility, 5.7 gives us a chance to add > deprecation warnings and such to help people prepare for 7. > > Finally, it is a fallback. If we do end up targeting 7 to come out next > year, then if serious issues cause delays to 7, we will have a less > ambitious and working new release to fall back on. > > I should clarify that I don’t wish to delay phpng at all, I am very much > in favour of it and excited about it, nor do I expect this to delay it. We > can simply work on two releases at once: PHP 7, an ambitious BC-breaking > release to come out later, and PHP 5.7, a safe, non-breaking release that > will come out next year with the usual schedule. > +1 Having 5.7 would be nicer for users and developers. Let's have 5.7 and master branch for PHP7 now. I would like to have +1 year dev time for PHP7. However, it may be good idea to release 5.7 and 7.0 at the same time. I suppose big changes may be implemented in 7.x. Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net
