On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 23:06 -0400, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2014, Bob Weinand wrote: > > > Commit: 2bcac53bca8ea82d661f057b6d9ff3c7c84f05a7 > > Author: Bob Weinand <bobw...@hotmail.com> Fri, 24 Oct 2014 > > 19:29:50 +0200 > > Parents: 53560ca06b333b71883269091f7d74c0a25e087b > > c03ac47bafd0ea55055a2f3d4de0bc6bb4d98d8d > > Branches: master > > > > Link: > > http://git.php.net/?p=php-src.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bcac53bca8ea82d661f057b6d9ff3c7c84f05a7 > > > > Log: > > Made phpdbg compatible with new engine > > <snip> > > AM sapi/phpdbg/xml.md > > Although this patch does make it work with PHP 7, it also does do > something absolutely different: it reinvents a wheel by coming up with a > new XML protocol for debugging. > > So far I've been silent on PHPDBG, but seriously, is it really not > possible to cooperate instead of reimplementating something that already > exists? PHPDBG is difficult to use with its odd command line "commands". > And then I haven't even spoken about the pretentious "awesomesauce" on > http://phpdbg.com/ — a domain that's not even under the PHP group's > control. > > cheers, > Derick
Derick, A few weeks ago, I was at a conference where you told a room filled with hundreds of developers that phpdbg was no good, because you don't know how to use it. This is a strange sort of silence, and does not invite us to co-operate. When you invented dbgp there were other protocols in existence, not sure why we are expected to reuse a protocol. It so happens that the phpstorm guys working on integration seemed keen on something new. I don't see the problem in that. If the only reason it exists is for projects like phpstorm and they are actually going to put time into trying something new, then why the hell not. I'm not sure why it matters what kind of language we use on phpdbg.com, not sure why you think it should be under the control of the php group either. If you had wanted to co-operate, you could have spoken to me at that conference in person, or to any of us in IRC, on any day. You chose to do what pleased you. We should be allowed to do the same. Joe -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php