> Am 30.10.2014 um 13:06 schrieb Ferenc Kovacs <tyr...@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Bob Weinand <bobw...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:bobw...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Hey, I can accept that.
> 
> But it’d be great if you could only revert now in the 5.6.3 release branch, 
> not in the 5.6 development branch, so that this gives us now still some time 
> to see what exactly we want to revert or not and for some eventual RFC?
> 
> we could do that, but that will make the RMs job much harder, because that 
> means that any upcoming 5.6 rc/stable release has to be always cherry picking 
> everything but the phpng stuff.
> I think having it in the krakjoe/phpdbg repo, or in php-src but under a 
> feature branch would be better. 

Actually, I just proposed as a temporary solution (which definitely should be 
resolved before 5.6.4 rc1).

An alternative would be just putting a few #if 0 in code (phpdbg_out.c where 
the outputting of anything is centralized) to make XML stuff not usable. Maybe 
that one is the cleanest and least invasive with still allowing us to change 
the whole XML stuff.
And at the same time the normal improvements would still go into 5.6.3?

> 
> To add for 3.: Issues where with what I really couldn’t think of (separate 
> build dir on Linux…) or the issues with a JSON dep or Windows which I 
> couldn’t test.
> 
> yeah, sorry if it sounded as I'm blaming you guys, I was trying to make a 
> point about that big changes like that need some time to stabilize and I also 
> think that some of the issues would have been pointed out if there would be 
> some discussion prior merging a bunch of changes to php-src.

Well, for some part I’m to blame too as I merged a bit quickly just before the 
rc…

> Also, just to point it out: Windows allows extensions to be in a random 
> directory, *nix does not. I’d rather change the /acinclude.m4 to not be bound 
> to the /ext directory, so that it just works like on Windows.
> (That ugly hack really annoys me too…)
> 
> I could live with that, but we have to be careful when changing the build 
> infrastructure, because people build php on more platform than we test on.

I’ll be careful and test a separate build dir too first, promised.

> It wasn’t also a single feature, but more features (though XML protocol could 
> be well be the cause of 1/3 of the lines changed in phpdbg)...
> 
> fair enough.
> is there any change which is not related to the remote debugging/new xml 
> protocol and you would want to have it in 5.6.3?
> We are getting late with the tag, so my quick solution would be reverting 
> everything phpdbg related from PHP-5.6 in the last 5 days or so.

Well, I’d like to include as much as possible… see above.

> -- 
> Ferenc Kovács
> @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu <http://tyrael.hu/>
Bob Weinand

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