Hi! > famous articles written about it like "PHP fractal of bad design" and
That article. Which is from what I remember last time reading it was about 75% like "why I need to look in the manual instead of language being magically exactly the way I imagine it should be without any basis?". And another 20% like "why PHP is not my favorite language? How dare they take decisions that I don't agree with?" Yeah, some people have opinions. > i highly doubt that you didn't read one of these. I did read these and then some. As I said, people write a lot of stuff. Just because some guy somewhere wrote "php sucks" doesn't mean we should do massive changes. PHP is not ideal, it has its warts, but bringing up "people on the internet write that php sucks" each time change is discussed is useless. The change should be proven on its own merits, not on merit of some guy on the internet saying php sucks. > i didn't mention any break or things. also many languages are different Yes you did. You just proposed removing large part of PHP API. That would break things, there can be no confusion about it. If you propose *additional* API, that's fine - but before there's any talk about removing stuff, you should have the existing already overwhelmingly popular API in your hand. > from they were 20 years from now. languages keep evolving. you may not > see this as a breaking change 20 years from now imo Then let's talk about it in 20 years. No point talking about it now. Now we should talk about what we can do now - i.e. making better API. -- Stas Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php