Hmmm... I'm not really sure whether to consider this a language change or not. I mean no syntax has changed, but sure it does break BC because of the new notice. I'm really dubious about whether or not this demands an RFC. I've seen more sweeping changes make it into a release with less discussion and no RFC.
AllenJB, does this work the same for FAD and object properties? I haven't tested your pull locally yet, but it looks good to me. If this covers cases for both myFunc()['foo'] and $obj->prop['foo'] where neither is an array then I think it's definitely worth getting into 7.0.0, but I'll have to checkout your pull later tonight and test it a bit more. It looks like based on the discussion you've pretty much covered all of my major concerns with isset(), each(), and some of the other problems I saw from the PHP 5 attempts at fixing it. Also, thanks for taking the time to put this together and fix all the tests! On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:02 PM, AllenJB <php.li...@allenjb.me.uk> wrote: > I have a pull request pending on this bug: > https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1269 > > It's been discussed before ("Array dereferencing of scalars", 10th June > 2015 - I'm pretty sure it was discussed at least once more since then too) > and I was basically told it would require an RFC to get it accepted. > > Unfortunately the RFC window had basically closed at that time (and work > got busy shortly after), so now I've been waiting until 7.0 is clear (as > well as me having the time to finish drafting the RFC). > > AllenJB > > > > On , Sherif Ramadan wrote: > >> Hey Nicolai, >> >> You're right. The notice is triggered by array_push behavior only, which >> means that $x = true; echo $x['foo']; doesn't trigger the notice, which is >> the same as your code above. Only write operations have historically >> resulted in this notice. >> >> I would agree that providing the notice would help someone debugging >> potentially buggy code like this. Not sure if this is something we can >> squeeze into 7.0.0 release at this point, but I would consider it a bug >> fix >> with BC rather than something that should be subject to current feature >> freeze. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Nicolai Scheer <nicolai.sch...@gmail.com >> > >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >>> >>> I'd expect the following code to throw a notice/warning: >>> >>> $x = true; >>> $y = $x['foo']; >>> >>> It executes completely silently. >>> $y is NULL afterwards, which is expected, since the right hand side of >>> the assignment is undefined. >>> >>> If $x was an array (e.g. empty array), a E_NOTICE would be emitted. >>> >>> Can anyone shed a light on this behaviour? If accessing non existing >>> array keys is worth a notice, shouldn't accessing an array index on a >>> non array be worth a notice as well (maybe even a warning)? >>> >>> The other way round emits a warning (i.e. writing to an array key on a >>> non array): >>> >>> $x = true; >>> $x['foo'] = 'bar'; >>> >>> Warning: Cannot use a scalar value as an array ... >>> >>> Thanks for any insight, >>> >>> greetings >>> >>> Nico >>> >> > >