Am 03.02.16 um 17:54 schrieb Dan Ackroyd:
> On 3 February 2016 at 09:03, Davey Shafik <da...@php.net> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It's actually very difficult to be able to reliably determine that you are
>> running the _real_ PHP runtime and not something mimicking it.
> 
> The underlying problem seems to be caused by HHVM deliberately
> 'faking' the results of calls to zend_version() and the existing
> constants. What is there to stop any other PHP implementations from
> returning 'fake' data for that function or these new constants?
> 
> And just to play devils advocate, why isn't this a problem that should
> be solved in those other versions of PHP? They're the ones re-using
> version strings and so causing confusion.
> 
> I can see how this could be useful....I just can't see how this would
> be a permanent solution to the problem. As someone else said, this
> sounds like the old detecting browsers via "user agent headers" for
> browser detection. That became a complete nightmare as browsers kept
> imitating each other, and so the rules about strings became less and
> less useful.
> 
> Perhaps it might be helpful to justify the RFC, if you can give some
> more context as to why code needs to know about what VM it is running
> on?

Especially when running tests on f.i. Travis-CI you can set an
environment variable to describe what environment you are supposed to be
in.

In all other cases feature-detection (function_exists/extension_loaded
f.i.) should work fine to determine whether the used engine is able to
run a certain function.

And in the end the goal would be to not adapt the code to different
runtine-engines but to adapt the runtime engines to run the code in the
same manner. That's what the language-specification is there for.

My 2 Cent

Cheers

Andreas
> 
> cheers
> Dan
> 


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