On 09.02.2016, at 15:33, Derick Rethans <der...@php.net> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2016, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> 
>> 1.  "Debate the technical issues, and never attack a person's opinion. 
>> People will disagree, so be it."
>> 
>> I think this sentence is problematic.  Not that I'm pro-attacks, but 
>> opinions - as ideas - should absolutely be up for scrutiny and debate.  
>> What I think we should say instead is this:
>> 
>> "Debate the ideas, never attack the person holding them."
>> 
>> Criticizing ideas is absolutely fine, and it's healthy.  Ideas can be 
>> bad even if they don't have any 'technical issues' in them.  It's the 
>> personal attacks we should avoid.  And of course, the criticism should 
>> be to-the-point - but the proposed text already covers that.
>> 
>> We can consider adding another important part of the equation - "Don't 
>> consider critique of an idea you proposed as critique of you 
>> personally."  As humans, we tend to do that, and we shouldn't.
> 
> I've changed it to:
> 
> * Debate the technical issues, and ideas behind them, but never attack the
>  person holding them. People will disagree, so be it.

I agree with Zeev here. It would be good to simplify this, and adding an 
explicit note about the inverse as well.

Something like:

"Debate issues and ideas, not the person holding them. Regardless of what side 
of a discussion you're on, realize that criticism of ideas or actions is 
distinct from criticism of a person."

David



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