On 20 ????? 2016, at 1:10, Marco Pivetta 
<ocram...@gmail.com<mailto:ocram...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On 19 April 2016 at 23:47, Zeev Suraski <z...@zend.com<mailto:z...@zend.com>> 
wrote:
I fail to see how adding C++ templates to PHP takes it to the next level in 
anything but the complexity scale.  Not having them is not preventing anybody 
from doing anything today.  Sure, a bunch of frameworks would adopt them once 
they become available - but it will not enable them to do things that are 
radically different from what they're doing today.

And the fact that you fail to see it is why you don't see any advantages, but 
that's because you are likely unfamiliar with most recent tooling around static 
introspection.

Saying that a given feature will not take PHP to the next level is not at all 
the same as saying I don't see any advantages.  I did not say the latter, and I 
stand behind the former.  As I said, I'm sure frameworks would use it and there 
are obviously some valid use cases for it, but it won't change the way the vast 
majority of people develop code.  Forget for a minute whether we should or 
shouldn't add it - this is not a make or break feature for PHP.

Zeev


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