Hi Thomas,

On the face of it, I'm not enthusiastic to introduce new magic numbers
(which would be false, 0, 0.0, "", and [], right?) that PHP assigns when
coercing a typed, uninitialized property read by a file in liberal mode.

This is like taking the most confusing thing about 7.0's dual-mode, scalar
type declaration of function arguments and boosting the confusion power. I
would want a new name for this complement-of-strict mode. "Weak" and
"liberal" don't quite do it. Promiscuous mode? ;)

Tom


On 5/26/16, 10:40 AM, "Thomas Bley" <ma...@thomasbley.de> wrote:

>I think strict_types=1 should give a fatal error for accessing
>non-initialized typed properties, instead of notice.
>Example:
>
>declare(strict_types=1);
>
>class A {
>       public int $x;
>       public ?int $y = null;
>       public int $z = 42;
>       public ?int $u;
>       public ?datetime $v;
>       public datetime $w;
>}
>
>$a = new A;
>var_dump($a->x); // Fatal error, uninitialized...
>var_dump($a->y); // null
>var_dump($a->z); // 42
>var_dump(isset($a->z)); // true
>unset($a->z);
>var_dump(isset($a->z)); // false
>var_dump($a->z); // Fatal error, uninitialized...
>var_dump($a->u); // Fatal error, uninitialized...
>var_dump($a->v); // Fatal error, uninitialized...
>var_dump($a->w); // Fatal error, uninitialized...
>
>var_dump(isset($a->x)); // false
>var_dump(isset($a->y)); // false
>var_dump(isset($a->u)); // false
>var_dump(isset($a->v)); // false
>var_dump(isset($a->w)); // false
>
>Regards
>Thomas
>
>Tom Worster wrote on 26.05.2016 15:53:
>
>> On 5/25/16 5:52 PM, Thomas Bley wrote:
>>> I'm not seeing a problem here:
>>>
>>> class A {
>>>   public int $x;
>>>   public ?int $y = null;
>>>   public int $z = 42;
>>>   public ?int $u;
>>>   public ?datetime $v;
>>>   public datetime $w;
>>> }
>>>
>>> $a = new A;
>>> var_dump($a->x); // 0 + notice
>>> var_dump($a->y); // null
>>> var_dump($a->z); // 42
>>> var_dump(isset($a->z)); // true
>>> unset($a->z);
>>> var_dump(isset($a->z)); // false
>>> var_dump($a->z); // 0 + notice
>>> var_dump($a->u); // null + notice
>>> var_dump($a->v); // null + notice
>>> var_dump($a->w); // Fatal error, uninitialized...
>>>
>>> var_dump(isset($a->x)); // false
>>> var_dump(isset($a->y)); // false
>>> var_dump(isset($a->u)); // false
>>> var_dump(isset($a->v)); // false
>>> var_dump(isset($a->w)); // false
>> 
>> Is the file containing these examples in liberal mode?
>> 
>> What changes if declare(strict_types=1) precedes $a = new A;?
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>



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