Afternoon Kalle, We have to start with the assumption that everyone that votes, does so with good intentions.
I'm sympathetic to the view that active contributors should somehow carry more weight with their words, or vote. But, I shy away from actually saying that we should only listen to those people. Consider the case of an extension developer who may not have time to actively contribute to php-src, but is directly affected by decisions we make. They acquired karma for fixing a couple of bugs in the course of developing their extension, and so vote when RFC's come along that they have an opinion on. Their extension may be widely used, but just not a candidate for inclusion in PHP. I think we all intuitively agree that this person deserves their voice, and that they can't be considered active contributors in any real sense. Such cases are innumerable. Cheers Joe On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen <ka...@php.net> wrote: > Hi Joe > > 2016-11-17 18:18 GMT+01:00 Joe Watkins <pthre...@pthreads.org>: > > Afternoon internals, > > > > This has been discussed before in various RFC threads, there does seem to > > be some consensus that 50%+1 votes could be harmful. > > I still stand by that we should only let active contributors to PHP > vote, while I understand that not everyone votes and there are many > projects within the PHP.net umbrella. I do understand that many from > outside projects wants to contribute and not everyone is great at C or > internals or similar, but it is us that maintain PHP and if everyone > who have a wiki account votes on something they may not understand the > implication of, then it us that sits with it for years to maintain. > > By doing that I think we wouldn't need to have a X%+1 for accepting an > RFC, if there are a tie, then there is obviously a dispute among us > core developers and it can be discussed. Kinda what we used to do with > voting on the ML, just by tracking them on the wiki interface. > > > -- > regards, > > Kalle Sommer Nielsen > ka...@php.net >