On 06/23/2018 03:11 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
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From: p...@golemon.com [mailto:p...@golemon.com] On Behalf Of Sara
Golemon
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 1:07 AM
To: Nikita Popov <nikita....@gmail.com>
Cc: PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8 next?
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Nikita Popov <nikita....@gmail.com> wrote:
Based on some recent conversations, I'm getting the impression that
after PHP 7.3, we might want to go for PHP 8 next.
I'd like to discuss and possibility decide this now, as that would
make PHP
7.3 the last chance to get in deprecations.
Would you mind elaborating on your motivations for a major version bump. I'm
not saying I disagree in principle, I'm just curious what you're seeing the
drivers
as.
This is slightly earlier than I intended to bring it up but I do too think that
the next version beyond 7.3 should be 8.
I disagree.
I'm mostly a user, not a PHP developer.
RHEL 7.5, the latest version of RHEL, still ships 5.4.
Other LTS distributions also probably ship 5.x.
So a major version bump now would mean three major versions of PHP that
web applications intended to "just work" on enterprise *nix would have
to support.
If there was a major design flaw in PHP that can only truly be fixed by
an incompatible version bump past 7 then do it but otherwise, I think it
would be better to wait until the most recent versions of enterprise
distributions have moved to php 7.
I'm hoping RHEL 8 does, the benefits are tremendous of 7 over 6.x, but...
The issue is some customers of enterprise linux specifically don't want
frankenstein systems and want to use vendor supported packages only, and
I can see their point of view because they pay a lot of money for that
support.
That being said, I try to get everyone running old PHP up to 7.1 or 7.2
even if it means frankenstein systems. But some think the benefit of
enterprise vendor support outweighs the improvements in PHP.
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