On Mon, 29 Apr 2019, Zeev Suraski wrote: > On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 11:32 PM G. P. B. <george.bany...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think this just boils down to what is an acceptable majority, if > > 2/3 is not enough then 3/4 but this is another debate altogether. > > > > I've argued in the past that it would make sense to require a 9/10 majority > for RFCs. Very few RFCs that passed - only cleared a 2/3 majority. > Usually (in the vast majority of cases), it either clears a nearly > unanimous vote - or it doesn't even come close to 2/3. > > RFCs that have a high number of votes (i.e., that people feel strongly > about), and barely pass the 2/3 mark - are controversial and saw division. > Yes, it means that out of the (almost random) group of people who are > currently enabled to vote by our (flawed) voting system
If you think it's flawed, you know that the RFC process is there for anybody to change it. Joe already managed twice towards what you suggested in your stalled RFC: - https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abolish-short-votes - https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abolish-narrow-margins (btw, you voted against this one to raise the barrier from 50%+1 to ⅔rds). > It's absolutely fine to dislike short tags. It's absolutely fine to > believe it shouldn't have been introduced. But the gap between that, > and thinking it's fine to remove it - is very, very big. But the fact is that the RFC passed. And retroactively changing rules because somebody don't agree with a decision is making a farce out of the process. So what's next? From what I understood, Nikita and George have spoken to take Nikita's implementation proposals forwards. I'm pretty sure that this will result in another RFC on which we then can vote. cheers, Derick -- https://derickrethans.nl | https://xdebug.org | https://dram.io Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: https://xdebug.org/donate.php, or become my Patron: https://www.patreon.com/derickr twitter: @derickr and @xdebug
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