On Sep 12, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Olumide Samson <oludons...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think they could switch to using null instead, or perhaps get something 
> else to differentiate what they have initialized or not,

Perhaps, but switching the code requires finding the right people to do the 
work and then funding the changes.

A lot of WordPress code marginally maintained is at best — especially WordPress 
sites.  That differs from what it sounds like are the practices of those who 
are arguing for enforced strictness here on this list.

> that shouldn't stop them from using PHP, probably it will only make them not 
> upgrade to PHP if they think their bad coding practice is the way forward and 
> the best way to code..

Hopefully my words did not imply that. I think I instead stated that they would 
likely never upgrade.

> This is merely assumptions and you can't speak for companies you don't know, 
> what's the statistics backing these your use of "ever and never"?

It is absolutely an assumption. Based on my experience.  But YMMV.

That said, I can give you stats for how many WordPress plugins there are on the 
WordPress repository, around 68,000.  And in my experience a sizable percentage 
of them would break with these changes.  

Whether or not the PHP community cares about breaking a large number of 
WordPress sites or not is up to those of you who get to vote.  I just commented 
to include this perspective since I have not seen anyone else mention WordPress 
on the list recently.


>  It's up to them, PHP 7 is still available and will always be available for 
> them to use... 

Yes. But of course, at some point PHP 7 will no longer be officially supported. 
 

At which point PHP7 users will be forced to decide between support and choosing 
a support direction for their future.

And again, #jmtcw

-Mike

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