UPDATE:
Livio (supplier of small set of internet radios - historically Reciva-based but 
now also using RadioTime) has just
launched an iPhone app aimed specifically at in-car use (4.99USD).

The database comes from RadioTime (along with programme schedules and a 
geo-lookup facility).

Includes UI designed for relatively easy fat finger use
http://www.livioradio.com/car/
http://www.livioradio.com/iphonecarhelp/

I still think that this is a minority sport until 4G - but interesting to see 
how it develops.

Paul Webster

On Mon, 10 May 2010 21:24:55 +0100, you wrote:

>I should have said - a winner over 3G ... but I think that broadcast 
>(FM/AM/Sat/DAB) will continue for a long long long time.
>
>Paul
>
>Sent while mobile
>
>On 10 May 2010, at 21:21, Paul Webster <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> While technically it is possible to do, especially with just a couple of 
>> journalists driving around - the mobile phone networks that we have today 
>> (3G) really do not have the capacity to be a replacement for regular in car 
>> listening.
>> A 5 lane queue into a major city with just a few tuning in via internet 
>> would swamp the local cells.
>> If that can be solved (4G NG) then next issue is the amount of bandwidth 
>> that the broadcaster will need to buy (since the telco/ISPs do not seem that 
>> interested in multicast - at least here in UK).
>> 
>> I think that MP3 player plugged into head unit with the radio able to break 
>> in with RDS traffic info turned on (has that arrived in USA yet) is a more 
>> likely.
>> 
>> Paul 
>> 
>> Sent while mobile
>> 
>> On 10 May 2010, at 20:48, Richard Cuff <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting article.
>>> 
>>> Richard cuff / Allentown, PA
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Curt Phillips W4CP <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:35 PM
>>> Subject: [ODXA] NYT: 'Will The Internet Kill Car Radio?'
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Cc: Yahoo Group NASWA <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> And if it kills car radio, where does that leave AM & FM terrestrial radio? 
>>>  Home and office users already have lots of options.  Lots of 3G dead zones 
>>> are an impediment right now. 
>>> 
>>>   
>>> 73, 
>>> 
>>> Curt W4CP
>>> Raleigh, NC USA 
>>>  
>>> NYT: 'Will The Internet Kill Car Radio?'
>>>  
>>> May 7, 2010: The New York Times' John R. Quain speculates today on whether 
>>> the Internet will be the death of radio in the car, saying that "there is a 
>>> new movement afoot that could really threaten traditional broadcast radio: 
>>> Internet music services like Pandora, Slacker, and Last.fm." (Last.fm is 
>>> part of the CBS Interactive Music Group.) 
>>>  
>>> The "devices responsible for this trend," says Quain, are smartphones and 
>>> mobile apps that allow streaming of music services over 3G connections. He 
>>> notes that companies are solving the distraction problem involved in 
>>> switching channels or song-skipping by "marrying these services to existing 
>>> in-car controls, essentially making it no different than switching between 
>>> 100 WINS and Q104.3."
>>>  
>>> Quain points to an Alpine receiver with "Pandora link" and a Pioneer 
>>> receiver with voice control for Pandora. In testing the $1,200 Pioneer AVIC 
>>> X920BT, Quain said the voice control worked well, and writes, "The sound 
>>> quality, while not equivalent to a CD, was as good as typical radio 
>>> reception and better than some satellite radio stations." 
>>>  
>>> But he did note some limitations, such as dead spots when AT&T's 
>>> "notoriously patchy" 3G service in New York lost its signal, and to the 
>>> distractions involved in using a Droid phone, with no custom controls, with 
>>> the Pioneer device. But he continues, "However, such limitations may soon 
>>> disappear as automakers integrate streaming Internet services directly into 
>>> their cars."
>>>  
>>> Quain also notes that "traditional radio broadcasters have heard the 
>>> drumbeat of mobile apps," pointing to Clear Channel's popular iheartradio. 
>>> Clear Channel EVP Evan Harrison told Quain, "We're not trying to dictate 
>>> where people connect to us. We need to be everywhere." 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Link to RadioInk article can click through to full NYT article:
>>> http://www.radioink.com/Article.asp?id=1798175&spid=30800
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