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Thanks for the clarification Paul and some insight. Good to know the Reciva
heart is still ticking after all the mergers.
More and more, I think the database itself needs an open source solution and
volunteer maintainers. I'd be curious if you or anyone else on this list thinks
that's an idea with any legs. Maybe the vTuner database would be a start.
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-Rob de Santos
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From: Internetradio <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul
Webster
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 6:07 AM
To: Internet radio discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Internetradio] vTuner and Frontier Silicon
Regarding Reciva ... they still do station maintenance themselves - in addition
to the small number of outside volunteers.
The volunteers are great for one off requests and occasional bulk updates (e.g.
if one broadcaster changes all of their stream URLs from one format to another
in a predictable way) but importing large lists or editing stations with more
than one stream URL still requires Reciva (Qualcomm is the parent nowadays) to
do the updates.
The Logitech Squeezebox approach is very good. They have TuneIn (tuneIn.com) as
their built-in station library but have some broadcasters available without
using TuneIn and, for people who run LMS/SlimServer at home, provide a way for
3rd-parties to provide plug-ins that extend the capability. For example there
is radiofeeds.co.uk that has a very good list of UK radio stations.
I have volunteered on a number of different platforms over the years. The
TuneIn (was still Radiotime when I started helping out) station maintenance
interface was, for me, the best of the handful that I used and Reciva had the
most friendly and responsive staff ... but I was the first volunteer on that
system so perhaps had better service.
Paul Webster
> On 14 May 2019, at 05:46, Rob de Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks, John for update. The articles on the Dutch site were informative. I
> tend to agree with the observations there and yours that the truth here is
> somewhere in between all the accusations flying back and forth. The database
> maintenance for all the online systems has always been an Achilles heel. None
> of the manufacturers wanted to pay the freight for their firmware or the
> database maintenance.
>
> My sense is that we will soon be left with one less player in the game if
> vTuner closes shop. Most of the maintenance to Reciva is now done by
> volunteers (who do an admirable job, all things considered). TuneIn (the US
> company) is a purely commercial operation at this point and not particularly
> easy to work with as an end user. Work on the Logitech system continues as an
> open source project. Slim pickings. Airable.radio seems small at this stage
> and it's too early to see if they can get up to critical mass. Ultimately,
> some sort of user selected database and maintenance may be all the devices
> will have in a year or two.
>
> Is there anyone who can reach out to the vTuner people and see if they can
> preserve (archive) their database, at least? Perhaps ask if they would
> consider working with the iradioforum crew? (Not speaking for anyone at
> iradioforum or whether they would be interested.)
>
> Also, articles at:
> https://www.teltarif.de/wlanradio-internetradio-frontier-silicon-vtuner-airable/news/76539.html
> (German language site)
> https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2282513/frontier-silicon-portal-not-working/p1
>
>
> --
> -Rob de Santos
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