Hi again,

well, yesterday's and today's posts have provided lots of food for thought. 

First, in response to Phil wondering about the lull in environmental concerns 
and Wendy referring him to World Watch.... If I could recommend some perhaps 
more even-handed sites (WW is a bit too neo-malthusian for me, since we need to 
be open about our perspectives)  take a look at the results of the Millennium 
Ecosystem Assessment (MA)  (http://www.millenniumassessment.org/en/index.aspx) 
or the World Resources Institute website (www.wri.org).  I might also add that 
I work for a project that is co-sponsored by several so-called "international 
global environmental change research programs" -- the International 
Geospher-Biosphere Program (IGBP), the World Climate Resaerch Program (WCRP) 
and the International Human Dimensions Program (IHDP)-- all of which are 
co-sponsoring our project, which is trying to get a handle on current and 
future threats that global environmental change pose for food systems and food 
security.  So, Phil, in some parts of the virtual world, environmental concerns 
are alive and well, and people are trying to bring science to bear on policy 
concerns through integrated/ interdisciplinary scientific approaches!

Just a note on frameworks:  the MA used a framework that it took an entire book 
to explain, but in response to Margaret's point about whether it matters where 
frameworks come from, OH YES.. is my answer.  Even within the very 
multi-disciplinary MA, there was a bias from the start towards ecologists and 
world-reknowned scientists, which they tried to redress with a lot of success 
but not total, as  it was too late to correct for all of the (implict and 
explicit) power relationships already in place.  

Now to question 2 of Topic 2:  How can a learning approach help the 
science/user/policy dialogue?
Well, ideally, a learning approach will help the dialogue because everyone 
comes to the table to learn from one another.  Thus no one body of knowledge 
should inherently be privledged over another-- however, we cannot be naive 
about power structures.    Similiarly to some of you, I also started out trying 
to do "participatory" research with smallholder farmers.  In between and at the 
moment my focus is more on scientific researchers and those involved in the 
"policy process"... but the skills I learned working with farmers always apply, 
although the issues about how to construct the dialogue are different, of 
course, because the context and power relationships are different.  

Re getting the dialogue started -- most advice on informing the policy process 
will tell you to start with concerns relevant to policy makers... which can be 
tricky for environmental issues..  Within my project, GECAFS, we have started 
to talk about the initial policy- science dialogue as a period of "mutual 
awareness raising".

The most interesting conceptual framework for policy-science dialogue that I 
have found lately are the scenarios exercises undertaken in the MA and now 
being adapted by others... check out the following citations:

Carpenter, S. and L. Gunderson.  2001  Coping with Collapse:  Ecological and 
Social Dynamics in Ecosytem Management.  BioScience 51 (6)

and Walker, B. et al.  2002.  Resilience management in social-ecological 
systems:  a working hypothesis for a participatory approach.  Conservation 
Ecology 6(1) art14  

Actually the online journal Ecology and Society which is run by the Resilience 
Alliance has some creative minds contributing to topics of relevance to this 
group.  It is open access so check it out.

Best to all,
Polly

Polly Ericksen
GECAFS International Project Office
NERC - Centre for Ecology and Hydrology
Wallingford
Oxfordshire, OX10 8BB, UK

Tel: +44 1491 692210
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GECAFS Website: http://www.gecafs.org 
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