Also, both have excellent customer support that won't let you down.
On Jul 8, 2015 8:43 PM, "Ytai Ben-Tsvi" <[email protected]> wrote:

> There are two manufacturers I can vouch for (meaning that I reviewed their
> manufacturing practices and standards and made sure they have a good test
> setup that's applied on every unit before shipping). These are SparkFun and
> SeeedStudio. Both have world wide shipping as well as local resellers in
> many places. They're also the only ones courteous enough to pay royalties.
> On Jul 8, 2015 8:39 PM, "lennart rolland" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I was not aware there were such a thing as untrusted manufacturers. That
>> was a big tip. Thanks!
>> On Jul 9, 2015 5:34 AM, "Ytai Ben-Tsvi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Why did you repeat the same mistake of buying from untrusted
>>> manufacturers? Get one from Seeed for about the same price and have peace
>>> of mind.
>>> These low quality manufacturers are nothing but bad reputation... They
>>> didn't even get the LED colors right.
>>> On Jul 8, 2015 8:27 PM, "lennart rolland" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, so I ended up returning the device to supplier (dx.com) And since
>>>> the RMA proces was extremely lengthy I decided to buy two new devices in
>>>> the mean time. They arrived yesterday. This time I bought devices with
>>>> bluetooth dongle included. They still look exactly the same (white PCB with
>>>> IOIO otg branding).
>>>>
>>>> This time I did not solder on the pin headers on one board to make sure
>>>> it was 100% vanilla before testing. This did not matter.
>>>>
>>>> So on the last board the ioiodude command did not work at all, however
>>>> on these two devices it works (shows version numbers) for applications mode
>>>> but NOT for bootloader mode. When I enable bootloader mode the device
>>>> starts acting up during enumeration (device shows up in /dev once every 10
>>>> times  I run ls /dev/IOIO*), and ioiodude hangs indefinitely when trying to
>>>> list versions. This time I have also tried it on a third laptop (Lenovo
>>>> T61) to no avail. Also clearing the usb timing did not help (work at all)?
>>>> There is mention in documentation about a quick flashing yellow light when
>>>> synchronizing but my board seems only to have a green power led and a red
>>>> stat led. Also the documentation is really fragmented between v1 and otg
>>>> models. Before using ioiodude i did the whole ioiomanager app thing first
>>>> before finally reading in the fine print that it would only work for v1
>>>> devices. Could this be the reason why my devices are bricked?
>>>>
>>>> I am at loss here. The thought of having to go through dx.com RMA
>>>> process again sends chills down my spine but I guess I have no choice.
>>>>
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