That's a sufficient condition, but not necessary.

For example, if the maximum time is 5 seconds, the reply can come in 1 second.

On ter?a-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2016 09:55:05 PST ??? (Uze Choi) wrote:
> Just waiting (Maximum time)/2 can pass the TC I think.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: architecture_tg at openconnectivity.org
> [mailto:architecture_tg at openconnectivity.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:21 AM
> To: architecture_tg at openconnectivity.org
> Cc: Mitch Kettrick; uzchoi at samsung.com; 'Richard Bardini'; '????';
> iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org; 'Jacek Hryszkiewicz';
> cert_wg at openconnectivity.org Subject: Re: [architecture_tg] RE: Re: [dev]
> [cert_wg] RE: CTT Gap status sharing request - IPv6 Updates
> 
> Our initial goal was to provide this as an errata to OIC 1.1 (maybe OIC
> 1.1.1).
> 
> I don't think we need to test with a probability for randomness. That's QoI.
> I think we should test that the reply is neither: * immediate
>  * longer than the maximum time
> 
> On segunda-feira, 5 de dezembro de 2016 16:14:02 PST Mitch Kettrick wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Combining two responses (one from Thiago and one from Uze).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the updated status.  It sounds like this won?t be
> > implemented in the OIC v1.1 timeframe which is a departure from our
> > initial goal.  That?s fine.  I just want everyone to be aware that we
> > are not currently testing/certifying this feature.  Until we have spec
> > text and a corresponding implementation, there is nothing we can do in the
> > CWG.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Uze: Will we test it with probability basis for randomness?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Good question. We?ll also need help to define the test requirements
> > for this so that the CTT can apply the proper pass/fail judgement.
> > These test requirements will have to come from the ATG.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mitch
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: architecture_tg at openconnectivity.org
> > [mailto:architecture_tg at openconnectivity.org] On Behalf Of Thiago
> > Macieira
> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 3:58 PM
> > To: Mitch Kettrick
> > Cc: Richard Bardini; Dwarkaprasad Dayama;
> > iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org; cert_wg at openconnectivity.org; 'Jacek
> > Hryszkiewicz'; architecture_tg at openconnectivity.org; '???' Subject:
> > [architecture_tg] Re: [cert_wg] RE: CTT Gap status sharing request - IPv6
> > Updates
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It was not implemented yet.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I haven't had time to work on the spec text CR, even though it should
> > be no more than a paragraph. I might have time next week to work on it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The code change may be more difficult, I haven't begun looking into that.
> > It's unlikely I'll be able to do much.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: architecture_tg at openconnectivity.org
> > [mailto:architecture_tg at openconnectivity.org] On Behalf Of ??? Sent:
> > Monday, December 05, 2016 3:46 PM
> > To: Mitch Kettrick; 'Thiago Macieira'; Richard Bardini; ????
> > Cc: iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org;
> > architecture_tg at openconnectivity.org;
> > 'Jacek Hryszkiewicz'; cert_wg at openconnectivity.org Subject:
> > [architecture_tg] RE: Re: [dev] [cert_wg] RE: CTT Gap status sharing
> > request - IPv6 Updates
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Mitch,
> > 
> > Random delay has not been implemented in IoTivity1.2.1 yet because we
> > cannot delay the release to fix the PF schedule.
> > 
> > As far as I know this is a kind of performance issue rather than
> > interoperability itself. Furthermore it is not easy to test this feature.
> > 
> > Even it has been discussed during ATG, opensource perspective there is
> > no implementation yet, it is rational to exclude it from certification
> > scope I think.
> > 
> > I expect it will be done from next IoTivity release but still not sure
> > we should check it for certification. Will we test it with probability
> > basis for randomness?
> > 
> > BR, Uze Choi
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --------- Original Message ---------
> > Sender : Mitch Kettrick <cpm at openconnectivity.org> Date : 2016-12-06
> > 08:21 (GMT+9) Title : Re: [dev] [cert_wg] RE: CTT Gap status sharing
> > request - IPv6 Updates
> > 
> > Hi Thiago, Richard and Dwarka,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Where do we stand on this?  Was this ?random delay response? feature
> > implemented in IoTIvity v1.2.1?  Was it discussed on today?s ATG call
> > to define the requirements from a spec perspective?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This has not been implemented in the CTT yet because we?re waiting for
> > direction from the ATG/IoTivity.  The goal was to get this into OIC
> > v1.1.x based on our discussions in Taipei?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mitch
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: cert_wg at openconnectivity.org
> > [mailto:cert_wg at openconnectivity.org] On Behalf Of Mark Trayer Sent:
> > Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:26 AM
> > To: Mitch Kettrick; '??? (Uze Choi)'; '???'; 'Heldt-Sheller, Nathan';
> > 'Richard Bardini'; 'Thiago Macieira'; JinHyeock Choe Cc:
> > iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org; cert_wg at openconnectivity.org; 'Jacek
> > Hryszkiewicz' Subject: RE: [cert_wg] RE: CTT Gap status sharing
> > request -
> > IPv6 Updates
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As per the minutes from the CTWG sessions at the F2F Richard owns the
> > action to close the loop with both Thiago and Dwarka on the necessary
> > editorial errata for the Core Spec and the corresponding code change
> > that would be needed.  The understanding was that both would be part of a
> > future ?dot? release of OIC 1.1.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So waiting on the update from the action owner(s).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Mark.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: cert_wg at openconnectivity.org
> > [mailto:cert_wg at openconnectivity.org] On Behalf Of Mitch Kettrick
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 9:22 AM
> > To: '??? (Uze Choi)' <uzchoi at samsung.com>; '???'
> > <dongik.lee at samsung.com>; 'Heldt-Sheller, Nathan'
> > <nathan.heldt-sheller at intel.com>; 'Richard Bardini'
> > <richard.a.bardini at intel.com>; 'Thiago Macieira'
> > <thiago.macieira at intel.com>; JinHyeock Choe <jinchoe at samsung.com> Cc:
> > iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org; cert_wg at openconnectivity.org; 'Jacek
> > Hryszkiewicz' <jacek.hryszkiewicz at comarch.com> Subject: [cert_wg] RE:
> > CTT Gap status sharing request - IPv6 Updates
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Uze,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The random delayed response was discussed at the F2F and I thought
> > that the goal was to have it in the next release of IoTivity which is
> > why Thiago worked on a proposal and presented it in Taipei.  But I?m not
> > 100% cetain.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Richard, Jin and Thiago, was the intent to try to get the ?IPv6 fixes?
> > in OIC v1.1 if possible or wait until OCF 1.0?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mitch
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ??? (Uze Choi) [mailto:uzchoi at samsung.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 1:02 AM
> > To: 'Mitch Kettrick'; '???'; 'Heldt-Sheller, Nathan'; 'Richard Bardini'
> > Cc: iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org; cert_wg at openconnectivity.org;
> > 'Jacek Hryszkiewicz' Subject: RE: CTT Gap status sharing request
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Mitch,
> > 
> > - ?IPv4/IPv6 changes as discussed by Thiago?
> > 
> > I figure out that one is link-local/site local scope extension and the
> > other is random delay response for multicast.
> > 
> > First item has been already committed and the latter is not yet committed.
> > 
> > However, they are not the scope of OIC1.1 and Certification with
> > CTT1.4, I think, which mean better to have in 1.2.1 release.
> > 
> > If any concern about it, then let me know.
> > 
> > BR, Uze Choi
> > 
> > From: Mitch Kettrick [mailto:cpm at openconnectivity.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:33 AM
> > To: '??? (Uze Choi)'; '???'; 'Heldt-Sheller, Nathan'; Richard Bardini
> > Cc: iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org; cert_wg at openconnectivity.org;
> > Jacek Hryszkiewicz Subject: RE: CTT Gap status sharing request
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Uze,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I?ll let Nathan and/or Dongik provide specific details about any
> > Security-related issues if needed.  Here is my understanding of where
> > we are right now:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Items to be fixed on CTT v1.4
> > 
> > ?        CT1.7.7.1 updated to append ACE with random UUID rather than
> > adding a ?*? ACE for /oic/p which already exists
> > 
> > ?        Update CT1.7.8.1 for Clients - CTT sends a GET to /oic/d which
> > has
> > an ACE installed
> > 
> > ?        Update CT1.7.8.2 to allow any 4.xx error code (CTT now allows
> > 4.01
> > Unauthorized only)
> > 
> > ?        Update to align with Security CR46 which allows only doxm and
> > pstat to be accessed over CoAP rather than all SVRs.  There is already an
> > IoTivity patch for this (#14137)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Items still to be fixed on IoTivity v1.2-rel
> > 
> > ?        IPv4/IPv6 changes as discussed by Thiago
> > 
> > ?        NON block-wise transfer (current analysis indicates this is an
> > IoTivity issue ? email attached)
> > 
> > ?        Add Policy ?p? to any Collection as discussed by Joey from Intel
> > (email attached)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Items to be added to the IoTivity Reference Device or still to be tested:
> > 
> > ?        Collections
> > 
> > ?        Run all sever-role test cases against a device that is primarily
> > in the Client role
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Core schema file changes (Richard)
> > 
> > ?        Update changes to OIC Link schema file as agreed at the F2F
> > 
> > ?        Update OIC Link schema file to address issues found by Comarch
> > (pull request 30)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mitch
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ??? (Uze Choi) [mailto:uzchoi at samsung.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 11:32 PM
> > To: ???; Heldt-Sheller, Nathan; Mitch Kettrick
> > Cc: iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org; cert_wg at openconnectivity.org
> > Subject: CTT Gap status sharing request
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Nathan/Dongik/Mitch
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As a main IoTivity/CTT developer, I?d like to ask you to share
> > IoTivity
> > 1.2.1 and CTT1.4 Gap.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Items To be fixed on CTT 1.4
> > 
> > -      aaa
> > 
> > -      bbb
> > 
> > Items To be fixed on IoTivity 1.2-rel
> > 
> > -      ccc
> > 
> > -      ddd
> > 
> > Interoperability Test status
> > 
> > -      the lastest testing event: IOTIVITY 1.2-rel (changeID: xxx), CTT
> > 1.3.kk
> > 
> > -      fail 1: aaa/ccc
> > 
> > -      fail 2: bbb/ddd
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Currently there are several pieces of mail, but too fragmented and detail.
> > 
> > Following format or equivalent simple format will be helpful I think.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > BR, Uze Choi
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > https://lists.iotivity.org/mailman/listinfo/iotivity-dev
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > <http://ext.samsung.net/mail/ext/v1/external/status/update?userid=uzch
> > oi&do
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> > jIwODU
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> > XR5Lm9
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> 
> --
> Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com
>   Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center


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  Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center

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