Well that use case is just part of the oic.d.camera.
The camera can stream video or retrieve an single image.
(RTFS?)

Kind Regards,
Wouter


From: Michael Koster [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 14 June 2016 15:50
To: Macieira, Thiago <thiago.macieira at intel.com>
Cc: Wouter van der Beek (wovander) <wovander at cisco.com>; Manoj Verma 
<manoj.kumar.mbm at gmail.com>; Lofgren, Scott O <scott.o.lofgren at 
intel.com>; cftg at openconnectivity.org; uzchoi at samsung.com; ?? 
<ashok.channa at samsung.com>; iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org
Subject: Re: [cftg] RE: Re: [dev] AV streaming on Iotivity.

Yes, the REST API could describe the resource and map the protocol for 
establishing a connection, for example the SIP/SDP interface, then the client 
would open another socket and use RTP/RTCP natively to control and consume the 
stream.

Best regards,

Michael

On Jun 14, 2016, at 7:20 AM, Macieira, Thiago <thiago.macieira at 
intel.com<mailto:thiago.macieira at intel.com>> wrote:

The description is so vague that the use-case would be "all of them".

Just one example: if I searched for oic.d.camera and found one, I might want to 
RETRIEVE its streaming details (probably a URL from which to get the RTP 
stream). This is where UPnP knowledge would be useful: is a URL enough?

If not, then what more information would we need? Or is it too much information 
there, stuff that wouldn't make sense in a REST model? If it's the latter case, 
then the RETRIEVE would only include a property saying "for streaming, query 
via UPnP / DLNA" (with port number and IP address, so no discovery is 
necessary).
________________________________
From: Wouter van der Beek (wovander) [wovander at 
cisco.com<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 00:28
To: Manoj Verma
Cc: Lofgren, Scott O; Macieira, Thiago; cftg at 
openconnectivity.org<mailto:cftg at openconnectivity.org>; uzchoi at 
samsung.com<mailto:uzchoi at samsung.com>; ??; iotivity-dev at 
lists.iotivity.org<mailto:iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org>
Subject: RE: [cftg] RE: Re: [dev] AV streaming on Iotivity.
Use case please?

Kind Regards,
Wouter

From: Manoj Verma [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 13 June 2016 15:18
To: Wouter van der Beek (wovander) <wovander at cisco.com<mailto:wovander at 
cisco.com>>
Cc: Lofgren, Scott O <scott.o.lofgren at intel.com<mailto:scott.o.lofgren at 
intel.com>>; Macieira, Thiago <thiago.macieira at 
intel.com<mailto:thiago.macieira at intel.com>>; cftg at 
openconnectivity.org<mailto:cftg at openconnectivity.org>; uzchoi at 
samsung.com<mailto:uzchoi at samsung.com>; ?? <ashok.channa at 
samsung.com<mailto:ashok.channa at samsung.com>>; iotivity-dev at 
lists.iotivity.org<mailto:iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org>
Subject: Re: [cftg] RE: Re: [dev] AV streaming on Iotivity.

May be we can use iotivity to control or  discover resource which generate 
binary data over gateway  ------>  control commands
And for data transfer we may use RTP or something else as separate service      
                                 ------> data transfer

Manoj Kumar
(NEC technologies)

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Wouter van der Beek (wovander) <wovander at 
cisco.com<mailto:wovander at cisco.com>> wrote:
Well the only video streaming is defined is for cameras.. .this is in the SH 
specs and uses RTP...

Anything else: UPnP is part of OCF.. so use UPnP for anything else..

Kind Regards,
Wouter

-----Original Message-----
From: cftg at openconnectivity.org<mailto:cftg at openconnectivity.org> 
[mailto:cftg at openconnectivity.org<mailto:[email protected]>] On 
Behalf Of Lofgren, Scott O
Sent: 11 June 2016 01:17
To: Macieira, Thiago <thiago.macieira at intel.com<mailto:thiago.macieira at 
intel.com>>; cftg at openconnectivity.org<mailto:cftg at openconnectivity.org>; 
uzchoi at samsung.com<mailto:uzchoi at samsung.com>
Cc: ?? <ashok.channa at samsung.com<mailto:ashok.channa at samsung.com>>; Manoj 
Verma <manoj.kumar.mbm at gmail.com<mailto:manoj.kumar.mbm at gmail.com>>; 
iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org<mailto:iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org>
Subject: RE: [cftg] RE: Re: [dev] AV streaming on Iotivity.

There are many ways of standardized streaming -- OCF should pick what they 
believe is optimal and refer to it - last I heard this was UPnP AV4 (which is 
part of OCF) and DLNA -- Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: cftg at openconnectivity.org<mailto:cftg at openconnectivity.org> 
[mailto:cftg at openconnectivity.org<mailto:[email protected]>] On 
Behalf Of Thiago Macieira
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 4:58 PM
To: cftg at openconnectivity.org<mailto:cftg at openconnectivity.org>; uzchoi 
at samsung.com<mailto:uzchoi at samsung.com>
Cc: ?? <ashok.channa at samsung.com<mailto:ashok.channa at samsung.com>>; Manoj 
Verma <manoj.kumar.mbm at gmail.com<mailto:manoj.kumar.mbm at gmail.com>>; 
iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org<mailto:iotivity-dev at lists.iotivity.org>
Subject: Re: [cftg] RE: Re: [dev] AV streaming on Iotivity.

AV streaming should be implemented using other protocols. Please use RTP/RTSP 
or whatever is most suitable for your device.

OCF should be used to discover the device that supports streaming and to obtain 
the parameters of the stream.

On sexta-feira, 10 de junho de 2016 23:51:07 PDT ??? wrote:
> Prior to implementation, data type should be defined for this streaming.
> According to OCF spec, the most similar one is the string data type
> with 16 bytes length which does not map with streaming use case. Let
> me include cfg mailing list.
> BR, Uze Choi
>
>
> --------- Original Message ---------
> Sender : ?? <ashok.channa at samsung.com<mailto:ashok.channa at samsung.com>> 
> Senior Technical
> Manager/SRI-Bangalore-IoTivity/???? Date : 2016-06-11 00:19 (GMT+9)
> Title : Re: [dev] AV streaming on Iotivity.
>
> Hello,
>
> Is there any default support for AV Streaming in current iotivity
> stack or we need to think in that prospective? --> Currently we don't
> have any AV Streaming support except block wise transfer which can be
> used for comparatively bigger blocks but not for video streaming.
> Proposal and contributions always welcome.
>
> Regards,
> Ashok
> ------- Original Message -------
> Sender : Manoj Verma<manoj.kumar.mbm at gmail.com<mailto:manoj.kumar.mbm at 
> gmail.com>> Date : Jun 10, 2016
> 19:16 (GMT+05:30) Title : [dev] AV streaming on Iotivity.
>
> Hello all,
>
> [AV Streaming]
>
> Video Streaming over COAP.
>
> Is there any default support for AV Streaming in current iotivity
> stack or we need to think in that prospective?
>
>
> Thanks and regard
>
> Manoj Kumar (NEC Technmologies)
>
>
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