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From: Dave Crocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: October 16, 2006 12:07:46 PM EDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected], Scott W Brim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [IP] more on Rude TSA personnel; uneven liquids policies
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



David Farber wrote:
This is just whining.  See tsa.gov.  The policy is clear: containers
more than 3 fluid ounces are not allowed.


If we are going to get legalistic, let's not invent language that the TSA does not use.

At <http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/ 9-25_updated_passenger_guidance.shtm> the language the TSA uses is:

     "Travelers may now carry through security checkpoints
     travel-size toiletries (3 ounces or less)travel-size
     toiletries (3 ounces or less)..."

Serge Egelman was carrying 3 oz or less and the TSA employee agreed with that assessment.

There is nothing that specifies what size "container" the 3 oz or less must be carried in. The word "toiletry" is not a synonym for "container".

Assuming that the concern is for dangerous materials, rather than dangerous sizes of containers, the TSA's current wording is just fine, but the TSA employee's behavior was not.

The employee was being a petty tyrant, which is indeed what this thread is about.

It is not "whining" to take exception to erratic and petty behaviors by agents of the government.

d/
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  Dave Crocker
  Brandenburg InternetWorking
  bbiw.net


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