Marc,

Ah, great idea!  That would explain a lot, and it's not at all hard to
imagine, since I'm using the 2.4 GHz band.  I will connect the
endpoints directly by ethernet and let you know the result.

Charles McIntosh

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Marc Herbert <marc.herb...@gmail.com>wrote:

> is any other device using the same band? did you connect back to back and
> try to reproduce something similar?
>
> never trust wireless...
> On Mar 14, 2013 10:57 PM, "Charles McIntosh" <mcinc...@students.ipfw.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello, all!
>>
>> I'm having some trouble interpreting some strange Iperf UDP results I'm
>> receiving.  If I use the following code on a wireless link (whose endpoints
>> are only about five feet apart):
>>
>> Server: iperf -s -u -l 1472 -i 1
>>
>> Client: iperf -c <IP> -u -l 1472 -b 50m -t 60
>>
>> I get some strange results from my per-second feedback.
>>
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5]  0.0- 1.0 sec  5.40 MBytes  45.3 Mbits/sec  0.260 ms   37/ 3887
>> (0.95%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5]  1.0- 2.0 sec  4.75 MBytes  39.9 Mbits/sec  0.253 ms  328/ 3715
>> (8.8%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5]  2.0- 3.0 sec  6.44 MBytes  54.1 Mbits/sec  0.357 ms  516/ 5107
>> (10%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5]  3.0- 4.0 sec  5.39 MBytes  45.2 Mbits/sec  0.239 ms  476/ 4315
>> (11%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5]  4.0- 5.0 sec  5.73 MBytes  48.1 Mbits/sec  0.239 ms  199/ 4281
>> (4.6%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5]  5.0- 6.0 sec  5.86 MBytes  49.2 Mbits/sec  0.291 ms   62/ 4236
>> (1.5%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5]  6.0- 7.0 sec  5.91 MBytes  49.6 Mbits/sec  0.251 ms   69/ 4277
>> (1.6%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5]  7.0- 8.0 sec  5.93 MBytes  49.7 Mbits/sec  0.258 ms   25/ 4248
>> (0.59%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5]  8.0- 9.0 sec  5.62 MBytes  47.2 Mbits/sec  0.248 ms  145/ 4151
>> (3.5%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5]  9.0-10.0 sec  5.57 MBytes  46.8 Mbits/sec  0.239 ms  285/ 4255
>> (6.7%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 10.0-11.0 sec  5.73 MBytes  48.1 Mbits/sec  0.244 ms  219/ 4300
>> (5.1%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 11.0-12.0 sec  5.92 MBytes  49.6 Mbits/sec  0.250 ms   37/ 4252
>> (0.87%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 12.0-13.0 sec  5.46 MBytes  45.8 Mbits/sec  0.248 ms  371/ 4260
>> (8.7%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 13.0-14.0 sec  5.35 MBytes  44.8 Mbits/sec  0.240 ms  360/ 4168
>> (8.6%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 14.0-15.0 sec  5.50 MBytes  46.2 Mbits/sec  0.248 ms  351/ 4271
>> (8.2%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 15.0-16.0 sec  5.31 MBytes  44.5 Mbits/sec  0.251 ms  406/ 4186
>> (9.7%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 16.0-17.0 sec  5.59 MBytes  46.9 Mbits/sec  0.249 ms  346/ 4326 (8%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 17.0-18.0 sec  5.52 MBytes  46.3 Mbits/sec  0.245 ms  227/ 4159
>> (5.5%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 18.0-19.0 sec  5.66 MBytes  47.4 Mbits/sec  0.248 ms  214/ 4243 (5%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 19.0-20.0 sec  5.83 MBytes  48.9 Mbits/sec  0.261 ms  204/ 4357
>> (4.7%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 20.0-21.0 sec  5.27 MBytes  44.2 Mbits/sec  0.249 ms  385/ 4142
>> (9.3%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 21.0-22.0 sec  6.02 MBytes  50.5 Mbits/sec  0.248 ms   26/ 4311
>> (0.6%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 22.0-23.0 sec  5.85 MBytes  49.1 Mbits/sec  0.281 ms   16/ 4186
>> (0.38%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 23.0-24.0 sec  6.03 MBytes  50.6 Mbits/sec  0.249 ms   22/ 4321
>> (0.51%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 24.0-25.0 sec  5.76 MBytes  48.3 Mbits/sec  0.250 ms   43/ 4147 (1%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 25.0-26.0 sec  6.10 MBytes  51.2 Mbits/sec  0.251 ms   17/ 4364
>> (0.39%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 26.0-27.0 sec  5.45 MBytes  45.7 Mbits/sec  0.256 ms  368/ 4252
>> (8.7%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 27.0-28.0 sec  5.54 MBytes  46.5 Mbits/sec  0.246 ms  191/ 4137
>> (4.6%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 28.0-29.0 sec  6.01 MBytes  50.4 Mbits/sec  0.249 ms   33/ 4312
>> (0.77%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 29.0-30.0 sec  5.48 MBytes  46.0 Mbits/sec  0.251 ms  283/ 4187
>> (6.8%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 30.0-31.0 sec  5.50 MBytes  46.2 Mbits/sec  0.250 ms  402/ 4323
>> (9.3%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 31.0-32.0 sec  3.86 MBytes  32.4 Mbits/sec  0.738 ms 1254/ 4003
>> (31%)
>> [  5] 31.0-32.0 sec  2 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 32.0-33.0 sec  1.88 MBytes  15.8 Mbits/sec  1.305 ms 2603/ 3945
>> (66%)
>> [  5] 32.0-33.0 sec  2 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 33.0-34.0 sec  1.84 MBytes  15.4 Mbits/sec  0.364 ms 3109/ 4420
>> (70%)
>> [  5] 33.0-34.0 sec  2 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 34.0-35.0 sec  2.14 MBytes  18.0 Mbits/sec  1.116 ms 2800/ 4326
>> (65%)
>> [  5] 34.0-35.0 sec  5 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 35.0-36.0 sec  1.94 MBytes  16.3 Mbits/sec  0.252 ms 2936/ 4321
>> (68%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 36.0-37.0 sec  2.14 MBytes  18.0 Mbits/sec  0.392 ms 2700/ 4227
>> (64%)
>> [  5] 36.0-37.0 sec  3 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 37.0-38.0 sec  2.60 MBytes  21.8 Mbits/sec  0.247 ms 2391/ 4246
>> (56%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 38.0-39.0 sec  2.04 MBytes  17.1 Mbits/sec  0.334 ms 2733/ 4186
>> (65%)
>> [  5] 38.0-39.0 sec  5 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 39.0-40.0 sec  2.12 MBytes  17.8 Mbits/sec  1.326 ms 2490/ 3999
>> (62%)
>> [  5] 39.0-40.0 sec  3 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 40.0-41.0 sec  1.01 MBytes  8.49 Mbits/sec  1.335 ms 3544/ 4265
>> (83%)
>> [  5] 40.0-41.0 sec  8 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 41.0-42.0 sec  2.51 MBytes  21.1 Mbits/sec  0.759 ms 2535/ 4323
>> (59%)
>> [  5] 41.0-42.0 sec  16 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 42.0-43.0 sec  1.72 MBytes  14.4 Mbits/sec  0.244 ms 3084/ 4307
>> (72%)
>> [  5] 42.0-43.0 sec  5 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 43.0-44.0 sec  2.09 MBytes  17.6 Mbits/sec  0.307 ms 2808/ 4299
>> (65%)
>> [  5] 43.0-44.0 sec  3 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 44.0-45.0 sec  3.10 MBytes  26.0 Mbits/sec  0.253 ms 1672/ 3880
>> (43%)
>> [  5] 44.0-45.0 sec  1 datagrams received out-of-order
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 45.0-46.0 sec  6.33 MBytes  53.1 Mbits/sec  0.249 ms  289/ 4796 (6%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 46.0-47.0 sec  6.10 MBytes  51.1 Mbits/sec  0.249 ms    0/ 4342 (0%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 47.0-48.0 sec  5.62 MBytes  47.2 Mbits/sec  0.293 ms   10/ 4016
>> (0.25%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 48.0-49.0 sec  5.93 MBytes  49.7 Mbits/sec  0.250 ms  148/ 4372
>> (3.4%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 49.0-50.0 sec  5.77 MBytes  48.4 Mbits/sec  0.256 ms  194/ 4303
>> (4.5%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 50.0-51.0 sec  5.71 MBytes  47.9 Mbits/sec  0.258 ms  109/ 4178
>> (2.6%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 51.0-52.0 sec  5.37 MBytes  45.0 Mbits/sec  0.248 ms  395/ 4218
>> (9.4%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 52.0-53.0 sec  5.66 MBytes  47.5 Mbits/sec  0.263 ms  263/ 4298
>> (6.1%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 53.0-54.0 sec  5.47 MBytes  45.9 Mbits/sec  0.252 ms  281/ 4180
>> (6.7%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 54.0-55.0 sec  5.63 MBytes  47.2 Mbits/sec  0.249 ms  193/ 4202
>> (4.6%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 55.0-56.0 sec  5.65 MBytes  47.4 Mbits/sec  0.258 ms  223/ 4249
>> (5.2%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 56.0-57.0 sec  5.38 MBytes  45.1 Mbits/sec  0.271 ms  402/ 4233
>> (9.5%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 57.0-58.0 sec  5.60 MBytes  47.0 Mbits/sec  0.272 ms  200/ 4191
>> (4.8%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 58.0-59.0 sec  5.74 MBytes  48.2 Mbits/sec  0.247 ms  200/ 4290
>> (4.7%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5] 59.0-60.0 sec  5.34 MBytes  44.8 Mbits/sec  0.248 ms  388/ 4189
>> (9.3%)
>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter   Lost/Total
>> Datagrams
>> [  5]  0.0-60.2 sec    293 MBytes  40.8 Mbits/sec  0.298 ms 46633/255320
>> (18%)
>> [  5]  0.0-60.2 sec  55 datagrams received out-of-order
>>
>> Why is there such an immense variation in packet loss (throughput)?  From
>> 0% packet loss to 83% packet loss, how do I choose a number to reliably
>> depict the actual performance of this network?  Interestingly, I ran this
>> test several other times, getting runs in which all the per-second reports
>> had about 5% packet loss, and getting at least one 60-second run in which
>> almost all the reports were 50% to 90% packet loss.
>>
>> I'm not sure what to make of this - is it an Iperf issue or a network
>> problem?  If it's a network problem, where does the issue lie? - surely not
>> in the wireless signal since the endpoints are so close in proximity.
>>  Where are the packets being lost?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Charles McIntosh
>>
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